Amerson Waived

[WRSK1NS]

Amerson waived- so I waved back.

Fresh air and change did him some good. Good for him

[over the mountain]

if my photo meme phase is annoying, im sorry ..

[Alvin Walton]

I cant believe we cut Delbert Cowsette.

[Meks]

I CAN'T Believe that Dallas Startz guy never panned out......

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Meks

I CAN'T Believe that Dallas Startz guy never panned out......

Marcus Mason never got a fair shot. He earned the starting job.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Meks

I CAN'T Believe that Dallas Startz guy never panned out......

i wanted mason crosby.

[That Guy]

which teams are paying them? and how much? are they giving one guy in the brown's scouting department a $1/year subscription just so they can say that an nfl team actually uses them? they can't say, cause "secrets" right? so it's an unverified fact reported on by the self-interested.

outsiders does a better job, and draftscout does an even better job (but they don't do advanced metrics, they mainly grade/rank college players).

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by That Guy

which teams are paying them? and how much? are they giving one guy in the brown's scouting department a $1/year subscription just so they can say that an nfl team actually uses them? they can't say, cause "secrets" right? so it's an unverified fact reported on by the self-interested.

outsiders does a better job, and draftscout does an even better job (but they don't do advanced metrics, they mainly grade/rank college players).

Oh yeah outsiders is great, different than profootball focus, but they do a great job.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by That Guy

which teams are paying them? and how much? are they giving one guy in the brown's scouting department a $1/year subscription just so they can say that an nfl team actually uses them? they can't say, cause "secrets" right? so it's an unverified fact reported on by the self-interested.

I don't know which teams use them nor how much it costs them. But I have no reason to doubt their claim that 19 NFL teams use their service. If that were a false claim I'm sure they would be held accountable. Also, I'm pretty sure they would gladly list which NFL teams use them but I would guess it more a matter of non-disclosure/confidentially then 'cuz secrets'. But again, to each their own.

Here's is a Gunther Cunningham anyhow...

.....Cunningham still records some of the same statistics on his own, including time to throw or defensive targets (mostly out of habit), but he and defensive quality control coach Matt Raich lean on Pro Football Focus to shave time off their research. Before the Cowboys game, for instance, it took them less than 30 minutes to pull up all the shotgun plays Dallas had used during its previous five games. They were able to discern the personnel groups, in part, by looking at the play diagrams and corresponding video footage. “As soon as you get an idea what the team is doing, it helps with guys like Ndamukong Suh and Ezekiel Ansah, because you can say, when they’re in shotgun, pin your ears back and go get ’em,” Cunningham says. “It’s not guesswork.” If the Lions were playing New England, Cunningham adds, he could quickly sort the PFF database for all offensive plays with unbalanced lines to help prepare for the Patriots’ eligible/ineligible gambit......

....Cunningham agrees with some of Zimmer’s criticism. Even after spending five seasons as the Lions’ defensive coordinator, Cunningham found it initially difficult to wrap his head around what everyone is supposed to be doing in Teryl Austin’s new system. So PFF analysts grading players without knowing the defensive call is one area, he says, “where they are a little bit short.” But Cunningham has also seen the reverse: coaches grading favorite players more easily, or giving themselves too much credit for placing a player in the correct position when he makes a play. When one Lions player raised a stink about how Pro Football Focus graded him this season, Cunningham checked the PFF grades against his own analysis. “I wanted so much to tell him,” Cunningham says, “that they were right on the money.”

outsiders does a better job, and draftscout does an even better job (but they don't do advanced metrics, they mainly grade/rank college players).

I like Football Outsiders and nfldraftscout/cbs too but they offer different services then PFF.

[30gut]

Anyhow its all good.

I just find it amusing that some people consider PFF garbage at the same time their content is gaining more and more credibility and being used by more teams NFL and college.

I'm out, PFF garbage! rah, rah!

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Anyhow its all good.

I just find it amusing that some people consider PFF garbage at the same time their content is gaining more and more credibility and being used by more teams NFL and college.

I'm out, PFF garbage! rah, rah!

First, the obvious thing to me is football is more of a team sport than any other. It's one play at a time and the success is very dependent on everyone working together. Individual grading within that box is very tough. Pff is certainly flawed, as is other sites who grade. Scheme, players health, other players ability...intangibles such as commitment, leadership, etc.
it's not just science...its art too.

I'll trust my eyes over anything.

[over the mountain]

Redskins grades: Trent Williams does well, but surprises galore from Pro Football Focus | CSN Mid-Atlantic

pretty sure it was the skins-eagles game.

PFF is what it is. Seems like a really detailed, easy to navigate data base. The raw detailed stats speak for themselves. The grades - people can take them or leave them as they choose.

if a person wants to count or discount PFF grades, that is their choice and you cant change their mind anyway.

[Schneed10]

I don't know how you guys manage to make football nerdy, but congratulations, you did it.

Now STFU already with this pro football focus bullshit. Amerson got better, so what.

Kirk is good, we know this.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't know how you guys manage to make football nerdy, but congratulations, you did it.

Now STFU already with this pro football focus bullshit. Amerson got better, so what.

Kirk is good, we know this.

If it was QBR could we sit at the cool table?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

If it was QBR could we sit at the cool table?