Grade the Redskins Moves So Far

[mooby]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Maybe a better way to say it is don't overpay for potential in free-agency. We (knowingly) used much of our cap space to sign an inconsistent performer in Garcon. IMO that qualifies as overpaying pretty much no matter what. The Morgan signing is even more perplexing given he was cut by a SB contender team that needs more production from WRs. So SanFran doesn't see him as a starter, and he's coming off injury. Back to Garcon, it's significant P Manning didn't lobby Garcon to wait in FA and sign the same place. Obviously if Manning said to Garcon "you're coming w/ me" and said to Denver "he's coming w/ me" it would have happened that way.

Unless Garcon said,"I'd prefer to blaze my own trail." In which case he would be free to blaze his own trail. You don't think RG3/Luck factored into Garcon's decision? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Morgan a free agent? If that's the case that would hardly qualify as being cut.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Maybe a better way to say it is don't overpay for potential in free-agency. We (knowingly) used much of our cap space to sign an inconsistent performer in Garcon. IMO that qualifies as overpaying pretty much no matter what. The Morgan signing is even more perplexing given he was cut by a SB contender team that needs more production from WRs. So SanFran doesn't see him as a starter, and he's coming off injury. Back to Garcon, it's significant P Manning didn't lobby Garcon to wait in FA and sign the same place. Obviously if Manning said to Garcon "you're coming w/ me" and said to Denver "he's coming w/ me" it would have happened that way.

Exactly.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Maybe a better way to say it is don't overpay for potential in free-agency. We (knowingly) used much of our cap space to sign an inconsistent performer in Garcon. IMO that qualifies as overpaying pretty much no matter what. The Morgan signing is even more perplexing given he was cut by a SB contender team that needs more production from WRs. So SanFran doesn't see him as a starter, and he's coming off injury. Back to Garcon, it's significant P Manning didn't lobby Garcon to wait in FA and sign the same place. Obviously if Manning said to Garcon "you're coming w/ me" and said to Denver "he's coming w/ me" it would have happened that way.

I don't see any significance in it myself. I think your theory is a stretch.

I don't know how realistic that would have been, or how fair that would have been for PM to ask that of Garcon. When free agency opened PM didn't even know where he was going yet. So to ask a guy, hey wait a few weeks for me to sign, pass up some big time coin along the way, and possibly have to take a discount to come play with me in the city of my choosing? Doesn't fly if you ask me. Hell even Wayne didn't follow him, does that mean PM doesn't like him too?

[MTK]

Grading the moves now is like giving someone a grade before they even take a test. I like the moves so far, but we still have the draft and plenty of more roster shaping ahead.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Grading the moves now is like giving someone a grade before they even take a test. I like the moves so far, but we still have the draft and plenty of more roster shaping ahead.

Agreed.

I'd like to have seen an additional option. 'Let's see what results we get this season in the W/L columns'.

[SkinsGuru]

i give the FO an A . . . not for the final product, but the biggest need the Skins have is QB . . . and they did everything they had to do to move up and select either RGIII or Luck . . . thats really makes this offseason and A by itself as if they turn out to be the player everyone thinks they can the Skins will be a much better team for the next decade and a half . . . everything else is just butter . . .

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by The Goat

My thoughts exactly. Garcon needs to make a big, immediate impact to justify the contract. I have no problem w/ Morgan on the other hand.

He will , fast and a very good route runner.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He will , fast and a very good route runner.

...also (mostly) inconsistent. He had a handful of big games last year otherwise pretty average. If Garcon really produces at the level of his contract then I'm annoyed w/ the opportunity cost but happy to have a younger WR. If Garcon doesn't produce it will be yet another major flub by this FO.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

...also (mostly) inconsistent. He had a handful of big games last year otherwise pretty average. If Garcon really produces at the level of his contract then I'm annoyed w/ the opportunity cost but happy to have a younger WR. If Garcon doesn't produce it will be yet another major flub by this FO.

It's hard to tell if his down games were because of Garcon or because of the immortal Curtis Painter.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's hard to tell if his down games were because of Garcon or because of the immortal Curtis Painter.

Garcon had more than a fair share of tough days with Manning has his quarterback. Then again, he didn't have the luxury to be brought in gradually like Reggie Wayne did. Marvin Harrison's career ended pretty abruptly.

[PilarVIRUS]

C-

No Flect, I don't need to explain this.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Really depends on what the outcome of arbitration is. If we are able to recoup cap space then I'm in love. If we have no first round pick coupled with no cap space next offseason I'm going to be less than thrilled.

[30gut]

They made some good moves with questionable compensation.
They've also made some ouright questionable signings.
They haven't upgraded the OL.

Thus far I would grade FA a C- with a curve thrown in fueled by Griffin based homerism.

[44ever]

C - Very Ordinary.
The fact that we are going after a franchise QB is great but not unexpected. I agree with the moves to get in the #2 overall to finally bring life to the QB position.

As far as Fletcher is concerned, I love him but, he's old and expensive, thats not a good combo when working under the current cap. With that said, he does bring more than great play on the field, his leadership/character was/is greatly needed in the locker room.

Garcon, great move IMO.
Morgan, bottom feeding but makes sense given the risk.

[MTK]

Production and potential are both factors when evaluating free agents. Teams pay for both.