Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by biffle

I don't see how Orakpo to St Louis makes any sense. They have Quinn and Long there.

4-3 d with Long at one DE and Orakpo at the other. I think the feeling is Po is better suited for a 4-3 End. the move would put Quinn at a LB spot or possibly Po at a LB spot. Rams are looking for a QB rushing complement to Long.

how did you end up qualifying for the 500?

[biffle]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

4-3 d with Long at one DE and Orakpo at the other. I think the feeling is Po is better suited for a 4-3 End. the move would put Quinn at a LB spot or possibly Po at a LB spot. Rams are looking for a QB rushing complement to Long.

Neither Quinn nor Orakpo are gonna make good 4-3 LBs. They are both just pass rushers, and any alignment with those 2 and Long is going to have major problems.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by biffle

Neither Quinn nor Orakpo are gonna make good 4-3 LBs. They are both just pass rushers, and any alignment with those 2 and Long is going to have major problems.

Yeah, well Quinn was a bust to begin with, very poor pick. Po at one end and Long at the other would be a nice tandem in a 4-3. Quinn wasnt even a starter last year, on the depth chart he played behind someone at the other end position.

[SmootSmack]

Williams isn't going anywhere

[Player_HTTR]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Williams isn't going anywhere

Hall?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Williams isn't going anywhere

Great news, originally you had mentioned a rumor about maybe moving him I think.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Great news, originally you had mentioned a rumor about maybe moving him I think.

Nah, I just asked if people would move him

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Redskins Reportedly Hold Informal Talks With the Rams About 2nd Overall Pick - Hogs Haven

I can't believe speculation about trading up is already hot and heavy; but hey its combine time.

I understand that this franchise wants a franchise QB.
But I don't get the level of angst.
There are really only 4 QB 'needy' teams and outside of Miami I don't see how the other teams desire for a QB rivals ours.
The way I see it there are 4 teams with different levels of need for a franchise QB.
But there are 4 candidates:
o Manning who's actually a franchise QB
o Flynn, Griffin and Tannehill potential franchise QBs

o One of the 3 will end up with Manning
o Flynn and Miami seem destined for each other linking the Philbin the teacher with Flynn the star pupil
o Seattle doesn't seem desparate enough to leap frog to the 2nd spot
o Cleveland is very unlikely to trade up to spots

I don't see a problem.
We sit back and let the draft come to us.
I have full faith that come training camp we'll either have a franchise QB (Manning) or a potential franchise QB or both.

-Seahawks are very interested in a certain QB at #12....Osweiller

Wow, that's a surprising rumor.
Must come from Osweiller's camp, I can't imagine any team is looking at Osweiller anywhere near 12.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I can't believe speculation about trading up is already hot and heavy; but hey its combine time.

I understand that this franchise wants a franchise QB.
But I don't get the level of angst.
There are really only 4 QB 'needy' teams and outside of Miami I don't see how the other teams desire for a QB rivals ours.
The way I see it there are 4 teams with different levels of need for a franchise QB.
But there are 4 candidates:
o Manning who's actually a franchise QB
o Flynn, Griffin and Tannehill potential franchise QBs

I don't see a problem.
We sit back and let the draft come to us.
I have full faith that come training camp we'll either have a franchise QB (Manning) or a potential franchise QB or both.

Wow, that's a surprising rumor.
Must come from Osweiller's camp, I can't imagine any team is looking at Osweiller anywhere near 12.

I think the "angst" is because aside from Manning not all these teams agree that the QB's you mentioned are all franchise QB's. If you only like 1 or 2 of the 4 there is no time to waste in getting your guy...

[30gut]

Originally Posted by celts32

I think the "angst" is because aside from Manning not all these teams agree that the QB's you mentioned are all franchise QB's.

Well to be clear I'm not saying any team thinks any of the non-Manning QBs are currently franchise QBs.
The only franchise QB available is Peyton Manning the others are potential franchise QBs.

If you only like 1 or 2 of the 4 there is no time to waste in getting your guy...

Sure there are endless speculations about which team likes which QB more or how the teams rank the QBs that we'll never know.
But don't you agree that its fair to say that the top QB prospects are considered potential franchise QBs?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Well to be clear I'm not saying any team thinks any of the non-Manning QBs are currently franchise QBs.
The only franchise QB available is Peyton Manning the others are potential franchise QBs.

Sure there are endless speculations about which team likes which QB more or how the teams rank the QBs that we'll never know.
But don't you agree that its fair to say that the top QB prospects are considered potential franchise QBs?

I would agree the rookies you mentioned are potential franchise QB's even though the teams will differ on how likely they are to fulfill that potential.

As for Flynn...I think it is very up in the air what the NFL really thinks of him. He's a former 7th round pick with 2 game tapes. I would think the consensus on him would be that he could be a starting upgrade for some teams but is not franchise QB material.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I can't believe speculation about trading up is already hot and heavy; but hey its combine time.

I understand that this franchise wants a franchise QB.
But I don't get the level of angst.
There are really only 4 QB 'needy' teams and outside of Miami I don't see how the other teams desire for a QB rivals ours.
The way I see it there are 4 teams with different levels of need for a franchise QB.
But there are 4 candidates:
o Manning who's actually a franchise QB
o Flynn, Griffin and Tannehill potential franchise QBs

o One of the 3 will end up with Manning
o Flynn and Miami seem destined for each other linking the Philbin the teacher with Flynn the star pupil
o Seattle doesn't seem desparate enough to leap frog to the 2nd spot
o Cleveland is very unlikely to trade up to spots

I don't see a problem.
We sit back and let the draft come to us.
I have full faith that come training camp we'll either have a franchise QB (Manning) or a potential franchise QB or both.

Wow, that's a surprising rumor.
Must come from Osweiller's camp, I can't imagine any team is looking at Osweiller anywhere near 12.

Where is Luck in all of this Franchise QB post?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by backrow

Where is Luck in all of this Franchise QB post?

Drafted by the Colts of course.

[SmootSmack]

Possibly, but I don't see them moving Hall w/o a replacement in hand

Skins met with Osweiler last night, maybe Seattle is thinking of trading down for him?

Hearing it's really down to the Redskins or Dolphins. Browns not willing, for now, to move two 1sts

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Hearing it's really down to the Redskins or Dolphins. Browns not willing, for now, to move two 1sts[/QUOTE]

So I know a few weeks ago from what you were hearing it didn't look as if we were going to trade up. Would you say now from what you are hearing it looks like we are trying to move up?