Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


May the Schwartz be with you?

Locker Room Main Forum


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-10-2008, 04:10 PM   #61
Redskins_P
Fight for old DC!
 
Redskins_P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Aldie, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 4,101
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
So he's 41.
Yes he is. Forgot to add that.
Redskins_P is offline  

Advertisements
Old 01-10-2008, 04:10 PM   #62
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 45
Posts: 12,421
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by stone View Post
maybe i'm on dope, but I just can't see Gibbs walking away from everything he's busted his arse for 4 years only to have it torn down. It just doesn't make sense to me. There is a replacement for Gibbs already and Gibbs and Snyder knew this already. They are just making us sweat it out. done deal pal!
OK, logically speaking, why would they do that?
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:12 PM   #63
70Chip
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 53
Posts: 3,048
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemnseven View Post
The issue with this guy, and anyone else who comes in from outside the organization, is will he accept Al Saunders as his OC.

Bram Weinstein had a good point today saying that if it's a first time head coach, that would lend more leeway to Snyder to say that whoever it is won't have a say with the offensive coordinator -- assuming Snyder does want to keep Saunders.
There is precedent for that type of arrangement. Cooke made Gibbs keep Richie Petitbon and Torgeson and the whole defensive staff as a condition for getting the job in 1981. The problem of course is that the perception is that the defense is better than the offense at this point. Likewise in 1981, it was the offense that had been holding the team back. If you condition Saunders, you're saying "Win, but you have to do it with this slightly disfunctional side of the ball".

I just can't see Williams staying regardless of the new HCs background. Williams role here has been something more than just coordinator but less than HC and he knows that Gibbs allowed that when nobody else will.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:13 PM   #64
12thMan
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,460
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
No ties to the players, but ties to the defensive system. That jives with Danny Boy's comments that "continuity is very important" to him.
I don't see how that can be intrepreted as continuity at all. He might run a simliar defensive scheme, but I'm sure when you get down to all the nuances of it, it's proably quite different.

In mind continuity encompasses far more than bringing in a similiar defensive scheme. It would have to suggest offense, teams and defense. Not to mention the culture of the Redskins organization. Schwartz may have solid NFL credentials worthy of an interview, and keep in mind that's all it is, but he most certainly has no idea of the vibe and what continuity actually consists of at Redskins Park.
12thMan is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:14 PM   #65
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn View Post
I'll take a bet Schwartz won't be our next HEAD coach? How bout it?
I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:15 PM   #66
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 45
Posts: 12,421
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12thMan View Post
I don't see how that can be intrepreted as continuity at all. He might run a simliar defensive scheme, but I'm sure when you get down to all the nuances of it, it's proably quite different.

In mind continuity encompasses far more than bringing in a similiar defensive scheme. It would have to suggest offense, teams and defense. Not to mention the culture of the Redskins organization. Schwartz may have solid NFL credentials worthy of an interview, and keep in mind that's all it is, but he most certainly has no idea of the vibe and what continuity actually consists of at Redskins Park.
Yeah you're right, Danny boy might stipulate that Schwartz has to keep Saunders and Danny Smith as the OC and ST coaches (assuming they were willing) to help maintain continuity.
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:16 PM   #67
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NY
Age: 52
Posts: 99,462
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

My bet is GW as head coach, Schwartz as assistant HC - defense.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:16 PM   #68
70Chip
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 53
Posts: 3,048
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach

So who's the HC, oh great one?
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:17 PM   #69
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 45
Posts: 12,421
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach
To who, GW as HC? Then why the initial interest in Cowher? Why didn't GW get promoted immediately? And why would Schwartz interview for a lateral move? And would the Titans even allow the interview for a lateral move?
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:17 PM   #70
12thMan
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,460
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
Yeah you're right, Danny boy might stipulate that Schwartz has to keep Saunders and Danny Smith as the OC and ST coaches (assuming they were willing) to help maintain continuity.
Could be. And then it might be one of those Jason Garret type things. He was the golden boy everybody thought was going to be the head coach and the Jones plucks Wade Philips for the head job. ( hehehe...I said head job)
12thMan is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:17 PM   #71
cpayne5
Playmaker
 
cpayne5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,807
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
__________________
"It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."
cpayne5 is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:18 PM   #72
stone
Camp Scrub
 
stone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pottsville, PA
Age: 49
Posts: 32
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
OK, logically speaking, why would they do that?

No disrespect to Coach Gibbs here but realistically gibbs was "out of the picture" kinda once Al Saunders came in.

Coach gibbs was the middle man for the offense with the power of veto over saunders but for the most part i believe Gibbs took somewhat of a back seat to the play calling once Saunders came in.... I think this is obvious with the 5-11 season in 2006 (saunders 1st year) So in reality, the point i'm trying to make here is: Saunders offense has proven to be effective I believe this is evident in the last 4 regular season games. Cambell went down (Gibbs "boy") and Collins came in (Saunders "boy") and tore it up. Gregg's "D" has also proven itself to be effective so I think that Gibbs decided that it's time to take his bottle of gule home with him because he's done his job and "glued" this team together. Gibbs is a brilliant man and I really don't think we'll see the fruits of his labor until next year and beyond.

I know, I have this posted in another thread....
__________________
"On the sidelines you could kind of feel everybody just fighting their guts out."
stone is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:18 PM   #73
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 45
Posts: 12,421
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
My bet is GW as head coach, Schwartz as assistant HC - defense.
See my questions above posed to SS. It's not making sense to me.
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:19 PM   #74
Redskins_P
Fight for old DC!
 
Redskins_P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Aldie, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 4,101
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
My bet is GW as head coach, Schwartz as assistant HC - defense.
I hope you're right.
Redskins_P is offline  
Old 01-10-2008, 04:19 PM   #75
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NY
Age: 52
Posts: 99,462
Re: May the Schwartz be with you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
To who, GW as HC? Then why the initial interest in Cowher? Why didn't GW get promoted immediately? And why would Schwartz interview for a lateral move? And would the Titans even allow the interview for a lateral move?
Who said the Skins were ever seriously interested in Cowher other than pure speculation from the media and fans?

It wouldn't be a lateral move when you take into account the title, Assistant head coach - defense.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28060 seconds with 10 queries