Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[Gary84Clark]

Dislocated etc etc. I say 4 weeks. He landed on his ankle wrong. If you play basketball a lot this is a common injury. It hurts like hell you can't walk on it for a week or two. 4 weeks max. That injury can happen to anybody who attempts a jump pass.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Good luck with that.

IMO Kirk is like Grossman and Favre: one of his best qualities is his aggression. And one of his worst qualities is his aggression. And because aggression got him where he is, that problematic aggression is not going away.

Also, please note that while Kirk may have only 4 starts, he is in his third year. It's not like he's had no time to develop like Aaron Rodgers did.

Rodgers played behind a first ballot hall of famer and is on his way to the hall fame as well. He's the exception, not the rule. I think you're expecting too much if you're setting the bar at Aaron Rodgers. Third year or not, nothing compares to game reps and Cousins, like everyone not named Aaron Rodgers, should benefit from live game experience.

Teams should hire you for your super-human ability to identify the incurable disease of aggression. It would save them $millions in bad draft picks.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Dislocated etc etc. I say 4 weeks. He landed on his ankle wrong. If you play basketball a lot this is a common injury. It hurts like hell you can't walk on it for a week or two. 4 weeks max. That injury can happen to anybody who attempts a jump pass.

Dislocated ankles are common? Twists and sprains are common, but dislocations are rare. And one dislocation often leads to another.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Cousins has always struck me as a 2TD 1 Int type of QB. However these days he might me seeing the field better.


...Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

If he's a 2TD to 1 INT guy, then sign me up for 28TDs and 14INTs.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How much better do you think Cousins can be?

Best case, maybe he's in the Cutler, Dalton, Foles range? Alex Smith maybe? Where does Russell Wilson fall? Kaepernick and Newton?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How much better do you think Cousins can be?

It all depends on the team around him. If Tyler Polumbus becomes a turnstile again.... if injuries continue to mount up...we will suck just like year. Regardless of who is at QB, even a healthy RGIII.

RGIII was heads a shoulders better than Cousins when they both came into the league. Hell, RGIII was a top 5 QB in the NFL that year.
Then he got hurt and all of that changed.
Since then I think KC might have improved, we will see.
RGIII on the hand has struggled.
I think the folks that put down KC need to realize RGIII is not who he was and may never regain that top 5 form. I hope not.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Not the same. Every QB needs some aggression. Let me rephrase: Favre, Grossman, and Cousins play with reckless aggression. And, as we saw with Favre and Grossman, the negative part never goes away.

So you're saying KC is going to play with reckless aggression after 4 starts? Last week RG3 had Swearinger blitzing on a boot pass, Rg3 saw him, did nothing, stood there and took a bad sack. KC had that same play sun, saw that it was a bad play, threw it at Helu's legs for an incomplete pass, saving the yards. So, is RG3 going to keep taking bad sacks the rest of his career? Is he going to keep fumbling also?

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you're saying KC is going to play with reckless aggression after 4 starts? Last week RG3 had Swearinger blitzing on a boot pass, Rg3 saw him, did nothing, stood there and took a bad sack. KC had that same play sun, saw that it was a bad play, threw it at Helu's legs for an incomplete pass, saving the yards. So, is RG3 going to keep taking bad sacks the rest of his career? Is he going to keep fumbling also?

Cousins is a pocket passer and has always been a pocket passer. He should be a better pocket passer than RG3. IS Cousins doing better than Schaub , Ryan, or Dalton? Pocket Passers have some good games but they also throw multiple INTs.

[Gary84Clark]

I noticed on the play Jackson got hurt on that Cousins does not have the deep ball accuracy or arm strength of Griffin. That's natural talent, can't teach that. No one is complaining about all of Cousins short passes like they complained about RG3's short passes.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Dislocated ankles are common? Twists and sprains are common, but dislocations are rare. And one dislocation often leads to another.

No surgery needed, yes those types of injuries are common it's a basketball injury. Cousins has his chance we can stop talking about it and see if he seals the deal.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I noticed on the play Jackson got hurt on that Cousins does not have the deep ball accuracy or arm strength of Griffin. That's natural talent, can't teach that. No one is complaining about all of Cousins short passes like they complained about RG3's short passes.

Not anymore. Granted there is a natural component to arm strength but more than ever scouts are realizing that in a lot cases its something that can measurably be improved on. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers all have seen significant increases over the years in arm strength with strength training geared towards Quarterback play. Granted Peyton and Brady may have started to taper off but in their primes they were much better arm strength wise than they were coming out of college. Remember, some rated Leaf over Peyton because they felt that Peyton didn't have anywhere near the arm strength as Leaf.

So it stands to reason that a natural hard worker like Cousins can improve his arm strength as well. Now it'll probably never be on par with RG3, but its certainly very reasonable to expect it to go from maybe a B- or B all the way up to a B+ or A- given enough time.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I noticed on the play Jackson got hurt on that Cousins does not have the deep ball accuracy or arm strength of Griffin. That's natural talent, can't teach that. No one is complaining about all of Cousins short passes like they complained about RG3's short passes.

Short passes? We're you watching the same game I was? He threw short, med, long, moved safeties with his eyes, the offense scored 41 points and had well over 400 yards. And he had no turnovers.

I do think Rg3 was going to have a beast of a game though...

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Thanks for sharing Saden, I know most people's stance but I wasn't really positive where you stood from your oh so classy post in the other thread.

I agree, after that crap comment by Saden, I find it hard to even look at his posts any more. I mean, what kind of fan lists his own starting QB going down hard with a horrific injury as a positive in a game?

In my years here I'ver never, ever read a more disgusting comment. Saden is no fan of my team, frankly he needs to just go away, with the Moderators' encouragement if necessary.

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oh i missed that post. gross

[Bucket]

I'm sorry.. I want RG3 to be okay and be able to do great things for us, but to say that KC cannot get better with more playing time and has hit his ceiling is a terrible terrible terrible idea.

You play more, and you get better... I wouldn't be surprised if KC has some great games for us.