Who Can Lead This Team?

[SirClintonPortis]

You sound like a Pukes fan, OP. Romo was simply pissed at FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKES ANY ****ING QB WOULD EXPLODE AT. Now, him blowing up at his incompetent receivers and center's mistakes is "how" Grossman should act.

"HOW" a message is delivered is not as important as "WHAT" is being sent.

And that jab at Beck is calumny at its finest. Oh, a Mormon white boy just HAS to be effeminate and a choir boy, huh?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You sound like a Pukes fan, OP. Romo was simply pissed at FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKES ANY ****ING QB WOULD EXPLODE AT. Now, him blowing up at his incompetent receivers and center's mistakes is "how" Grossman should act.

"HOW" a message is delivered is not as important as "WHAT" is being sent.

And that jab at Beck is calumny at its finest. Oh, a Mormon white boy just HAS to be effeminate and a choir boy, huh?

What in the world are you talking about?

[dgack]

I abhor this mentality of applying the "gun slinger" euphemism to any player who is careless with the rock

It's exactly that, though, the mentality. I'm not making a value judgement on how good a gunslinger he is, but he has no fear of chucking it up there, and seemingly never has.

Favre won lots of games with these kind of heroics and lost more than a few. Romo's the same way, but with a lower ceiling and floor. Ditto Rex.

I love this team, as does everyone here, but I can't stand idly by, being a blindly faithful zealot if I don't believe in the content.

Who's blindly faithful? I can't think of anyone here who thinks Rex is the answer at QB. Seriously, where is the Cult of Rex?

I just want to see if there is untapped talent lingering in the wings.

Again, I just tend to think that the front office, including our Super Bowl winning coach who seems to have turned our team around in terms of work ethic, discipline and personnel decision making knows better than I do.

I guess you see some things that they don't. It must be a burden to carry that knowledge every day, trying to get word to the coaching staff, but always being shut out.

[skinsfaninok]

LMAO Sir Clinton you are pissed today

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by dgack

It's exactly that, though, the mentality. I'm not making a value judgement on how good a gunslinger he is, but he has no fear of chucking it up there, and seemingly never has.

Favre won lots of games with these kind of heroics and lost more than a few. Romo's the same way, but with a lower ceiling and floor. Ditto Rex.

If by gunslinger you mean he wishes he was a Cowboy, after seeing that performance last night I'd have half a mind to agree.

I've never heard of someone getting the "gunslinger" label with absolutely no athletic ability to make a play when the pocket breaks down. Farve, Vick, Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Romo, all guys that can extend the play by throwing darts, and making plays in precarious situations. I'd be surprised if Rex has a completion rate of 10% outside the pocket on plays that aren't designed bootlegs. He's simply a remiss QB. Nothing more.

Originally Posted by dgack

Who's blindly faithful? I can't think of anyone here who thinks Rex is the answer at QB. Seriously, where is the Cult of Rex?

MattyK seems have a affinity for him.

Originally Posted by dgack

Again, I just tend to think that the front office, including our Super Bowl winning coach who seems to have turned our team around in terms of work ethic, discipline and personnel decision making knows better than I do.

So would you say you're blindly following the lead of these people even though we've seen clear indications of dysfunction, predictable playcalling, undisciplined out bursts, and questionable personnel decisions. We're not talking about the Belichick regime here. These people have made their fair share of mistakes in a short period of time. It only seem logical to critically question their choices.

Your last statement was riddled with sarcasm, condescension, and malevolence, and you can shuve it right back inside the hole from which it came.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

LMAO Sir Clinton you are pissed today

I still can't figure out what that whole Mormon rant was about

[SmootSmack]

By the way, why weren't you participating in the discussions the first two weeks of the season or even in the preseason fanarchist?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You sound like a Pukes fan, OP. Romo was simply pissed at FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKES ANY ****ING QB WOULD EXPLODE AT. Now, him blowing up at his incompetent receivers and center's mistakes is "how" Grossman should act.

"HOW" a message is delivered is not as important as "WHAT" is being sent.

And that jab at Beck is calumny at its finest. Oh, a Mormon white boy just HAS to be effeminate and a choir boy, huh?

WTF...please put down the cocaine Rick James.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

By the way, why weren't you participating in the discussions the first two weeks of the season or even in the preseason fanarchist?

I read the threads more than I participate in the discussions. I don't always feel the need because, like today for example, I say something that rubs someone the wrong way, and I spend the entire time defending myself. Maybe it's because I'm low man on the totem, or some arcane right of passage. Or maybe it's just my demeanor.

[Hog1]

I would suggest you refer to the WP "arcane right of passage"...hoyle, page 122.
Look under absolution........

[fanarchist]

Thanks for the correction. Rite of passage.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

MattyK seems have a affinity for him.

I was on the Beck bandwagon all preseason

[MTK]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

I read the threads more than I participate in the discussions. I don't always feel the need because, like today for example, I say something that rubs someone the wrong way, and I spend the entire time defending myself. Maybe it's because I'm low man on the totem, or some arcane right of passage. Or maybe it's just my demeanor.

Welcome to what we call discussion round here.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

So would you say you're blindly following the lead of these people even though we've seen clear indications of dysfunction, predictable playcalling, undisciplined out bursts, and questionable personnel decisions.

No, I'd say I'm pleased with the foundation that I've seen being laid so far this year considering the absolute train wreck that this franchise has been since the end of the first Gibbs era, with a couple of weakly positive seasons in Gibbs 2.0 tossed in.

We're not talking about the Belichick regime here. These people have made their fair share of mistakes in a short period of time. It only seem logical to critically question their choices.

So you're ready to proclaim Grossman worthless after less than a full season at the helm, and ready to put Beck in when there's been no evidence to suggest he's any better than Grossman, but you've got enough data points to be convinced that the Allen/Shanahan coaching tenure is suspect and their judgement and abilities lacking?

Your last statement was riddled with sarcasm, condescension, and malevolence, and you can shuve it right back inside the hole from which it came.

/shrug. Every one of your posts in this thread has been so full of vitriol and bitterness that it colors any possible point you're trying to make. And it's not really condescending to point out that your position seems to be:

a) you know better than the front office and coaching staff, and
b) the job the coaching staff and/or front office are not up to your standards

I mean, I suppose those are valid viewpoints, but given the state of this team and the fairly obvious improvements that have been made so far I'm not sure you can really expect anyone to take you seriously for holding them.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You sound like a Pukes fan, OP. Romo was simply pissed at FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKES ANY ****ING QB WOULD EXPLODE AT. Now, him blowing up at his incompetent receivers and center's mistakes is "how" Grossman should act.

"HOW" a message is delivered is not as important as "WHAT" is being sent.

And that jab at Beck is calumny at its finest. Oh, a Mormon white boy just HAS to be effeminate and a choir boy, huh?

I don't know WTH you're talking about SCP but I damn sure know how you feel.