Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013

SBXVII · 03-13-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to the cap info here, Helu is set to make $673,000 this year. If we released him, we'd take a $235,000 hit, so we'd ultimately end up saving $438,000.

That said, we have to think about who'd we replace him with. If we replaced him with a rookie, it would cost, at minimum, $405,000. Minimum for a 3 year veteran would be $630,000. Ultimately, cutting/replacing helu would result in minimal savings or actually be more expensive. The ideal solution would be for Helu to come back healthy and do what we drafted him to do.

Personally, I think the team is unsure if he will be able to come back 100% or come back on time. I also thought there was something wrong with Royster as well?

I'd probably cut Helu and take a chance on drafting someone fast/edge runner in the 6th round again. Otherwise the radio was talking about how the team could restructure some other players to get more CAP space to pick up another player if need be.

The Goat · 03-13-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think Mike and Kyle would have Reggie be a slot WR on some plays and then of course RB on 3rd down. I'm sure he'd be down for that .

Word to the turd. Can't bank on Helu, and I loved that kids potential. Morris and Bush duo would be deadly. Do it.

T.O.Killa · 03-13-2013, 02:24 PM

What about Fred Davis

donofriose · 03-13-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Hall's skill set measures out pretty strong at safety i.e. he'll immediately be an upgrade over Williams. Williams has minimal ball-hawk intuition, Hall is way above average in that regard. Hall can be tough as nails when he wants to be, and just as importantly has a high football IQ to sniff out plays. Obviously that's partly why he's a ball hawk, and the move to safety will maximize his skill set.

It's the smart move for the Skins IMO. Irresponsible to count on a 2nd/3rd round draft pick to have the football IQ to play FS well. We can look at other FAs, but they're either gonna command more than Hall or be one year stop gaps. And, again our defense is unique. Hall knows it inside and out.

Almost every defense in the NFL is unique. Halls biggest problem is he bites on plays and lets players behind him... And hall got dragged by jake delhome, I will never forget that. He's a good tackler for a corner, but for a safety he's below average and running backs and tight ends would drag him. I think I would draft a safety who played safety in college and has experience playing safety and understands he can't let someone behind him. So agree to disagree. I don't see hall playing safety all that well, especially with how inconsistent he is and how often he gets beat by average receivers

donofriose · 03-13-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Word to the turd. Can't bank on Helu, and I loved that kids potential. Morris and Bush duo would be deadly. Do it.

Looks like its too late now according to Espn

Counter-Tre · 03-13-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Word to the turd. Can't bank on Helu, and I loved that kids potential. Morris and Bush duo would be deadly. Do it.

Bush just signed with Detroit.

SkinzWin · 03-13-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think Mike and Kyle would have Reggie be a slot WR on some plays and then of course RB on 3rd down. I'm sure he'd be down for that .

I am actually really intrigued with that combo. With the pistol read-option you could have a million combinations of routes and runs that would keep the defense on their heels. I like it.

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Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Bush just signed with Detroit.

Crap, I jinxed it….

Defensewins · 03-13-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Bush just signed with Detroit.

Thank god. Do not want that softy here. Reggie Bush = Mike Oliphant.

SBXVII · 03-13-2013, 02:32 PM

I'm not worried about the RB position. MS is known for being able to pick up what he needs in a RB in the draft.

A RT and another WR and TE is what I'm concerned about. The Tackle from the Browns might fix one spot. If Davis stays healthy then we have another spot fixed plus I thought the team picked up a TE right after our season ended (maybe PS player).

The Goat · 03-13-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Bush just signed with Detroit.

That was the most logical destination. I bet he'll do well there.

RB is an issue for us though. The news on Helu continues to look bleak. Royster is nothing special.

Luckily our HC has arguably the best eye for RB talent in the game. Outside of Bush I preferred we draft a guy.

dmanley1986 · 03-13-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by donofriose

Almost every defense in the NFL is unique. Halls biggest problem is he bites on plays and lets players behind him... And hall got dragged by jake delhome, I will never forget that. He's a good tackler for a corner, but for a safety he's below average and running backs and tight ends would drag him. I think I would draft a safety who played safety in college and has experience playing safety and understands he can't let someone behind him. So agree to disagree. I don't see hall playing safety all that well, especially with how inconsistent he is and how often he gets beat by average receivers

I traveled to Carolina for that game. Haven't had confidence in him as a tackler since. He had a great second half of the season, and I'm worried who we are going to get to replace him at CB, but to move him to safety would be a nightmare. Banks could do just as well in run support.

SkinzWin · 03-13-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

That was the most logical destination. I bet he'll do well there.

RB is an issue for us though. The news on Helu continues to look bleak. Royster is nothing special.

Luckily our HC has arguably the best eye for RB talent in the game. Outside of Bush I preferred we draft a guy.

What about Leon Washington? He just got cut. I'm sure he won't command much money.

The Goat · 03-13-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

What about Leon Washington? He just got cut. I'm sure he won't command much money.

I trust Mike to make that call i.e. Washington > or < than draft prospect. But sure.

DynamiteRave · 03-13-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

That was the most logical destination. I bet he'll do well there.

RB is an issue for us though. The news on Helu continues to look bleak. Royster is nothing special.

Luckily our HC has arguably the best eye for RB talent in the game. Outside of Bush I preferred we draft a guy.

Royster will probably hang around. I remember Smoot saying something about coaches really liking him.

I've never taken to Royster as I've always thought he wasn't a hard nor fast runner.

Chico23231 · 03-13-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Royster will probably hang around. I remember Smoot saying something about coaches really liking him.

I've never taken to Royster as I've always thought he wasn't a hard nor fast runner.

Who?

03-13-2013, 02:24 PM	#543
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 What about Fred Davis

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SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 I'm not worried about the RB position. MS is known for being able to pick up what he needs in a RB in the draft. A RT and another WR and TE is what I'm concerned about. The Tackle from the Browns might fix one spot. If Davis stays healthy then we have another spot fixed plus I thought the team picked up a TE right after our season ended (maybe PS player).

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