Trouble in Redskins Park?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

prove that he wasn't drinking again

Prove that he was drinking again.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Prove that he was drinking again.

Exactly you can't do either.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Just go back a read my post from the last couple pages...I never said he wasn't having drinks. I was saying his drinking was absolutely not the issue in Redskins park. The article clearly states from multiple people inside the Organization McC drinking was never an issue. If McC drinking was the issue, the article about McC "downfall" as a skins executive would absolutely be about his struggles, addiction, etc. There also would be evidence of issues or events cited. There isn't any.

All we have to go on is Cooley asking loaded questions. I'm with you Chico, this stinks of typical Redskins bullshit. As long as his drinking wasn't interfering with his job, I don't care. We don't have any indication it was. But we do have sources (I think people seem to forget credible outlets, aka ESPN/NFLN, do their proper vetting before releasing stories) saying Allen and McC can't coexist.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Exactly you can't do either.

Exactly. And when the alternative is credible outlets like ESPN/NLFN reporting that Allen and McC can't coexist I'm more inclined to believe that. Why is it so hard to believe that Allen would be jealous of McC getting most of the credit for rebuilding this team? Is jealousy not a thing that exists in the NFL world?

[Counter-Tre]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I be surprised if that even hits his spam box.

Haha! You're probably right.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

Prove that he was drinking again.

The guy is an alcoholic who by his own admission never stopped drinking. I would find it nearly impossible to believe that he's clean and sober.

Not saying it played a significant factor in all of this drama, but talking solely on the issue of whether he's drinking or not, I would find it awfully hard to believe that he's not drinking.

Mike Jones just said the other day all he does is watch film AND DRINK. Another WP insider article states that sources say yes he drinks but it's not impacting his work.

Dude is drinking.

[Kope]

I cannot seem to gather the angst I have felt in other dumpster fire years.

I think Gruden will win with Colt. We have other receivers besides Doctson...(13 from last year?)

I am not scared of life without SM as a scout called a GM.

I guess I have more faith in Jay Gruden than SM at this point. I mean Jay is the only guy in 20 years who has done what he sees fit, made it work and not gotten fired for it.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Kope

I cannot seem to gather the angst I have felt in other dumpster fire years.

I think Gruden will win with Colt. We have other receivers besides Doctson...(13 from last year?)

I am not scared of life without SM as a scout called a GM.

I guess I have more faith in Jay Gruden than SM at this point. I mean Jay is the only guy in 20 years who has done what he sees fit, made it work and not gotten fired for it.

I think where you will miss Scot McCloughan are those mid-season pick ups when the 'skins are in need of filling depth.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

The guy is an alcoholic who by his own admission never stopped drinking. I would find it nearly impossible to believe that he's clean and sober.

Not saying it played a significant factor in all of this drama, but talking solely on the issue of whether he's drinking or not, I would find it awfully hard to believe that he's not drinking.

Mike Jones just said the other day all he does is watch film AND DRINK. Another WP insider article states that sources say yes he drinks but it's not impacting his work.

Dude is drinking.

Even in that article on ESPN back a few years when he was out of football he said he still drank lite beer. I mean you are still drinking if its 4 shots of Jack or 10 Coors Lite you are still drinking. I have never heard of or saw a alcohol program that said moderate use is acceptable for an alcoholic.

I am sure right now McC is 2 bottles of Dewar's in right now listening to White Snake's "Here I go Again".

I am totally joking on the last line kind of sort well not really.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by Kope

I cannot seem to gather the angst I have felt in other dumpster fire years.







I guess I have more faith in Jay Gruden than SM at this point. I mean Jay is the only guy in 20 years who has done what he sees fit, made it work and not gotten fired for it.

I think this is the sliver of light at the end of the tunnel. (I'm grasping with the rest of you. But I'm DC born and bred and too old to turn in my fan card now.)

Scot M was not destined to be a long timer here -- he would have put away the corkscrew if he intended to make a run at being a legit NFL suit and tie guy.

We need ONE person here who knows football and is trusted by Snyder. If that's Jay, then at least it's not Bruce. And it's one more than we've had thru most of Snyder's tenure.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

even in that article on espn back a few years when he was out of football he said he still drank lite beer. I mean you are still drinking if its 4 shots of jack or 10 coors lite you are still drinking. I have never heard of or saw a alcohol program that said moderate use is acceptable for an alcoholic.

i am sure right now mcc is 2 bottles of dewar's in right now listening to white snake's "here i go again".

i am totally joking on the last line kind of sort well not really.

turn it up scot!!!! Turn it up!!!!!

[Alvin Walton]

Doesnt look like him, but that is him.
That pic was taken yesterday at his sons bar mitzvah .

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

The guy is an alcoholic who by his own admission never stopped drinking. I would find it nearly impossible to believe that he's clean and sober.

Not saying it played a significant factor in all of this drama, but talking solely on the issue of whether he's drinking or not, I would find it awfully hard to believe that he's not drinking.

Mike Jones just said the other day all he does is watch film AND DRINK. Another WP insider article states that sources say yes he drinks but it's not impacting his work.

Dude is drinking.

Fair enough. Maybe the better scenario is: Prove his drinking is detracting from his work.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

Fair enough. Maybe the better scenario is: Prove his drinking is detracting from his work.

Well by definition an alcoholic is someone who lets alcohol control their life and inevitably it will impact their life/work. It's an illness.

[dej733]

Well it's official now.

Per @MikeJonesWaPo: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan after two seasons