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11-03-2011, 11:11 AM | #496 | |
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I'm not understanding how him owning stock has anything to do with his principles or what he stands for. Owning stock doesn't mean he doesn't want to limit corporate greed or get corporate America out of our government. Corporations aren't evil, and I'm quite positive he doesn't think so either. So the stuff you posted is 110% irrelevant to his qualifications and his stances on the issues. If you can prove to me he's voted differently (or would vote differently) based on his views, then you might have something. As it is, you are grasping at straws trying to disregard his as a good Presidential candidate.
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11-03-2011, 11:24 AM | #497 |
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Cain camp calls report of third harassment claim 'baseless' - CNN.com
This seems like something the Perry camp would do, fits his personally as a gutless, coward.
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We may finally know what inappropriate comments the Iowa radio DJ was alluding to when he added fuel to the fire by saying Cain made inappropriate comments to his female employees. Per the Des Moines Register:
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11-04-2011, 12:54 PM | #504 | |
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Got it - you believe a candidate's hypocrisy is irrelevant to their qualifications to hold office. I will note that down for future reference.
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My mom is the exact same way and ive personally seen her flip out on a waitress that called her “honey”. I understand completely, but I think its ridiculous that the radio DJ refused to offer details on what Cain’s comment really was. Theres a difference between being sexually harassed and having a 65 year old man from Georgia with a southern dialect call you darling, sweetie or honey, without knowledge that you disapprove. The DJ is clearly attempting to smear Cain’s name by calling attention to Cain’s action while withholding details so that the public and media are free to speculate on what Cain actually said.
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Ralph Nader wants Cisco to up dividend. He's right. The Buzz - Jun. 24, 2011 Looks like he called Cisco out on paying out shareholders. I suppose you vote for nobody right? They are all hypocritical and usually don't do what they say.
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Now, confronted with the blatant logical error of (3) above, and, to demonstrate the error, being confronted by the rhetorical corner requiring an admission from you that either (a) Nader's actions exhibited hypocrisy or (b) Nader's hypocrisy is relevant to his qualifications as a candidate - BAM - Nader's hypocrisy is no longer the subject of the discussion, but, instead, you assert through implication that, since all candidates are hypocritical (a truism I do not dispute - BTW), it is hypocritical of me to attack just Nader's hypocritical actions. This, despite the fact that I have taken no position as to any other candidates' alleged hypocrisies. Subtle, stunning and stupid all in one. As I said, brilliant. To be clear, I vote. Unlike you, I also recognize hypocrisy when it's highlighted - even if it is by candidates I endorse [As I once said to someone: both the Dems and the Reps lie, I just generally prefer the Republican lies to the Democratic ones]. To me, a candidate's hypocrisy is relevant dependent upon what the particular hypocrisy is. In the case of Nader, Nader's owning stock and investing in a company whose policies he stated he would specifically avoid is telling but not determinative. Since he is so far detached from reality, it is really only one more reason for me to ignore him. On the other hand, it was your claim that Nader's owning of stock in Cisco was irrelevant to his qualifications as a candidate. Through your typically imprecise language, and your equally typical moving of the rhetorical target, it is not clear whether you consider Nader's owning of Cisco stock to be hypocritical - your answer seems to say you don't find it hypocritical but, again in your typical fashion, your imprecisely worded response allows you to interpret it in whichever way ever suits you best at a later date. Nader's actions were hypocritical. Your denial of such is either stupid or obtuse. The relevance of his hypocrisy is dependent upon a variety of factors in turn dependent upon each individual's priorities. Your attempt to waive off as his hypocrisy as a smear tactic or a non-consideration is intellectual arrogance. Finally, your attempt to subtley change the topic while admitting no error was simply a matter of intellectual dishonesty. All of it is, unfortunately, consistent with your posts in the political forums. To the rest of the posters, I apologize for the digression.
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