Week 15: Redskins vs Cowboys Gameday thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Eagles were trying to move DM5 for a top 15 pick and a 3rd so...we stole him?

I'd say yes if thats what they really asked for

[Hog1]

FOUR for FOUR in the RED zone....WTF

[Beemnseven]

In other news, according to NFL.com Ryan Torain leads in fantasy football ownership trends -- up 24%.

[SkinzWin]

Okay, let's start playing the what if game. I'll go first...

WHAT IF, Cam Newton somehow falls to the Redskins who will probably have a top 10 pick. Do you take him??

[Big C]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

When do these second round QB's work out? Drafting a QB in the second round is a protective projection. The last quality second round QB was Drew Brees and he was drafted 32nd overall which today would qualify as a first round pick, and before that it was Brett Favre.

These days if you're lucky you get a second round QB thats on par with Chad Henne. Basically the best QB's come from either the first round or random spots late in the draft and you don't bank on those guys because if you're dense enough to do that you end up with Troy Smith as your franchise QB

At the very least scouts are good at identifying the best QB prospects year in and year out which is usually why they're all gone by the time the second round rolls around. If we're going to draft a real QB of the future we're going to do it right and take one in the first round.

i could counter and say who was the last 1st round qb that we drafted to make it? jason campbell? patrick ramsey? heath schuler? we havent done a good job at all at drafting qbs high the few times we have.

my basic point is that id rather draft a different position in the first round and get a guy to develop behind whoever our starter is, whether it be in the second round or later. im really not sold on anyone but luck as an elite qb this year, and hes only a redshirt sophomore this year.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

In other news, according to NFL.com Ryan Torain leads in fantasy football ownership trends -- up 24%.

That's because he helped me get to the championship game this week!!!! ATV!!

[Beemnseven]

It's going to be an interesting dilemma with the draft next year.

According to Ourlads Scouting Director Dan Shonka, who was on our local sports radio show last week, he says there aren't ANY quality offensive linemen coming up in the top ten of the draft next year. Not a good year for the guys up front, apparently.

Apart from O-line, out next biggest needs would be D-line and QB.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Okay, let's start playing the what if game. I'll go first...

WHAT IF, Cam Newton somehow falls to the Redskins who will probably have a top 10 pick. Do you take him??

One thing that Shannahan said on Friday struck me. He said "If there was a young DM5 out there that would be great" or something to that effect. To me it sounded like he was alluding to Cam Newton. However I'm positive Jake Locker will be available too. This is going to be an interesting draft. Now what if AJ Green is available? Do we take him or no?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

One thing that Shannahan said on Friday struck me. He said "If there was a young DM5 out there that would be great" or something to that effect. To me it sounded like he was alluding to Cam Newton. However I'm positive Jake Locker will be available too. This is going to be an interesting draft. Now what if AJ Green is available? Do we take him or no?

I would hope we have learned from that as we should be drafting very high Top 10, NO to AJ Green!

Here is what Shanny said:

"I've got to find where Rex Grossman is, where John Beck is. I want a chance to evaluate these guys," Shanahan said. "I told Donovan that there's nothing he could do in the three games that would influence me over what he's done over the last 13 games. I said, 'I'm not sure what I'm going to do in the college draft, if we're able to get the top quarterback in the draft, if there was a young Donovan McNabb or maybe a Sam Bradford, someone like that.' There's a lot of possibilities."

With our situation or lack there of at the QB position.....that is the foundation of any team address that need with the very best QB available. Something we have not had under Dans watch a franchise QB. Not a used up has been like dmac another failure, experiment.

Today was a job well done in the second half by Rex and the offense. The D and special teams were horrible. As we have several holes on all three phases of football on this current club, IMO you have to go after a QB at this point. Fill some holes and hope to be competitive for the next few years while the rebuilding is underway.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

It's going to be an interesting dilemma with the draft next year.

According to Ourlads Scouting Director Dan Shonka, who was on our local sports radio show last week, he says there aren't ANY quality offensive linemen coming up in the top ten of the draft next year. Not a good year for the guys up front, apparently.

Apart from O-line, out next biggest needs would be D-line and QB.

wide receiver is up there with o-line and d-line. we also need another rush outside linebacker to help take pressure off of orakpo. justin blackmon would be a great pick in the first round depending on where we end up. maybe ricky stanzi in the 4th or 5th round.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Keep Grossman and sign him to a 1 year extension for next season to see how he plays in a full year. Would use either the 1st or 2nd round pick to get a solid offensive lineman. Then all the other picks take the best players available regardless of position. There isnt a position where we dont need help. Might even be good to trade back in the 1st round and try to collect more picks. We need players.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Keep Grossman and sign him to a 1 year extension for next season to see how he plays in a full year. Would use either the 1st or 2nd round pick to get a solid offensive lineman. Then all the other picks take the best players available regardless of position. There isnt a position where we dont need help. Might even be good to trade back in the 1st round and try to collect more picks. We need players.

What 2nd round pick...? Eagles/dmac

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

What 2nd round pick...? Eagles/dmac

We have the 2nd rounder for 2011. What we lost was the pick that was eventually used on Nate Allen.

[SmootSmack]

I talked to a former scout the other day who said "Locker's a great fit for a west coast offense. Reminds me a lot of McNabb" I kinda had to laugh

[Big C]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Keep Grossman and sign him to a 1 year extension for next season to see how he plays in a full year. Would use either the 1st or 2nd round pick to get a solid offensive lineman. Then all the other picks take the best players available regardless of position. There isnt a position where we dont need help. Might even be good to trade back in the 1st round and try to collect more picks. We need players.

trade back would definitely be the best option, but easier said than done, as usual.