Week 15: Redskins vs Cowboys Gameday thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

When do these second round QB's work out? Drafting a QB in the second round is a protective projection. The last quality second round QB was Drew Brees and he was drafted 32nd overall which today would qualify as a first round pick, and before that it was Brett Favre.

These days if you're lucky you get a second round QB thats on par with Chad Henne. Basically the best QB's come from either the first round or random spots late in the draft and you don't bank on those guys because if you're dense enough to do that you end up with Troy Smith as your franchise QB

At the very least scouts are good at identifying the best QB prospects year in and year out which is usually why they're all gone by the time the second round rolls around. If we're going to draft a real QB of the future we're going to do it right and take one in the first round.

Good post

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It doesn't make sense to trade away picks for anything short term with regards to a rebuild. You're looking for long term gems when rebuilding and you build around those guys. You make trades for vets after establishing a solid core of guys to build around, like the Jets and Baltimore did.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not when you're giving up two draft picks. Yes a veteran would have been great, but we had to gamble and give up draft picks that we could have used to address other issues while rebuilding.

I don't like trading away picks any more than the next guy, but I don't fault the idea of bringing in a veteran, pro bowl-type QB who a solid majority figured could play for a good three more seasons.

It's not written in stone that you rebuild with unproven rookies at all 22 positions.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Good post

Colt McCoy.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Colt McCoy.

Lets wait on Colt, he looks decent but not yet sold on him

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I don't like trading away picks any more than the next guy, but I don't fault the idea of bringing in a veteran, pro bowl-type QB who a solid majority figured could play for a good three more seasons.

It's not written in stone that you rebuild with unproven rookies at all 22 positions.

Still, our team is up the sh*t creek because and our coach gambled two picks on a QB that has gotten benched twice this season.

[WilbursHomie]

O line looked good the second half. That's your difference, always is with the skins. If they play like that next year with Trent Williams being a year older, draft another stud lineman in the early rounds and you can stick Danny Wuerful back there and win.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Still, our team is up the sh*t creek because and our coach gambled two picks on a QB that has gotten benched twice this season.

But was it a gamble worth taking? That's the question. Only now, with the benefit of hindsight do we know the answer.

If McNabb lights it up, plays in Hawaii for a year or two, and guides an infusion of young guys through the rebuilding process on the way to a playoff appearance here and there, the two draft picks you expended don't look so bad. Hell, if he turns in a performance a knotch or two below that it would have been worth the price.

Needless to say, McNabb didn't have anything close to that left in the tank, and Shanahan overestimated him, like many, many others.

I don't like the end result by any means but I'm not going to put Shanahan in front of the firing squad for it either.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

But was it a gamble worth taking? That's the question. Only now, with the benefit of hindsight do we know the answer.

If McNabb lights it up, plays in Hawaii for a year or two, and guides an infusion of young guys through the rebuilding process on the way to a playoff appearance here and there, the two draft picks you expended don't look so bad. Hell, if he turns in a performance a knotch or two below that it would have been worth the price.

Needless to say, McNabb didn't have anything close to that left in the tank, and Shanahan overestimated him, like many, many others.

I don't like the end result by any means but I'm not going to put Shanahan in front of the firing squad for it either.

Great, glad you think it was worth the gamble. When MS brought McNabb, my first thoughts were, great he wants to win right away, I'm sure some people thought the same way.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lets wait on Colt, he looks decent but not yet sold on him

While I'm not 100% sold on Colt, I'm about 99.9% He finished with a 132 QB rating today. He's performing really well under the circumstances. He's only going to get better once he's complimented with some playmakers. Hillis and Cribbs is a very good start though.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

But was it a gamble worth taking? That's the question. Only now, with the benefit of hindsight do we know the answer.

If McNabb lights it up, plays in Hawaii for a year or two, and guides an infusion of young guys through the rebuilding process on the way to a playoff appearance here and there, the two draft picks you expended don't look so bad. Hell, if he turns in a performance a knotch or two below that it would have been worth the price.

Needless to say, McNabb didn't have anything close to that left in the tank, and Shanahan overestimated him, like many, many others.

I don't like the end result by any means but I'm not going to put Shanahan in front of the firing squad for it either.

Horrid short and intermediate game, mobility on the decline, inflated stats thanks to DeSean Jackson, the signs were there. Hell, my optimism for him was only because I thought we were going to have the ZBS working right away, not because he was a Brady. Tripp saw it coming.

[skinsfaninok]

shanny seemed to be really pleased with Rex today

[Hog1]

Listening to the post game interviews...Moss, Cooley, Fletcher, etc
It does not sound like a locker room.......divided.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Listening to the post game interviews...Moss, Cooley, Fletcher, etc
It does not sound like a locker room.......divided.

Thats always Bullshit going around, Shanny apparently likes Rex alot

[SmootSmack]

Eagles were trying to move DM5 for a top 15 pick and a 3rd so...we stole him?

[skinsfaninok]

Moss sounded like he was happy to play with Grossman