DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday

[Mechanix544]

He will be a redskin before he leaves the building today. I heard that the two sides are close to a deal, and are actively working to, make it work. That sounded wrong, but whatever. Any way, he will be a redskin today or early tomorrow.

According to a report late Monday night by Tim McManus of 97.5 The Fanatic, a source close to Jackson said the wideout and the Redskins are a “done deal.”

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Im curious as to what lineman we arent going to land this year if we sign DeSean? The cap will continue to rise each of the next few years, so if we see an OL we want next year, we will still be able to sign them. Plus, if we do get a player that helps there, we have people to cut there that already make a fair amount of money.

There isnt much left of this FA crop, some role players and depth and thats about it. Plus we would have to backload the contract since we are limited cap space now, so cutting him down the road wont be that hard unless BA loses his mind and guarantees way to much.

I would prefer a short contract, but its not the end of our chances to have a good OLine next year if we do sign him long term.

Don't know if you're really responding to my post or not, but what I was saying is that I wish we would have signed some of the great FA O-linemen available(Asamoah, Beadles, Collins, Schwartz, Penn; that level of linemen), and not even pursued Jackson.

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm curious as to why it has to be either or. We've signed two OL in free agency and will probably draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round regardless of Jackson.

The relentless obsession with offensive linemen in the absence of actual thought is mind blowing sometimes. We've got 4 young OL on the roster battling for starting positions (Hurt, Gettis, LeRibius, Compton), 4 holdover starters (Williams, Lichtenstieger, Chester, Polumbus), 2 free agent signees (Lauvoa, McGlynn) and 6 draft picks to address it and people are STILL bitching about addressing the offensive line? Unreal.

Yeah, we've addressed the O-line somewhat, but see my post above. None of the "holdover starters" except Williams and Lichtensteiger(at Center) are worth mentioning. Lavuao will merely be a solid starter, while McGlynn is probably pure depth. I too am hoping that some of the young blockers will step up, but it's not certain. We could have signed some of the aforementioned O-linemen and had a great line, but instead we skimped and saved(except for overpaying Lavuao) on the second most important group on the field, and now we're looking at spending that money on a luxury. If this strategy puts W's in the Win-Loss column, I'll be happy; but right now I don't think it's the way to go.

To sum it up: our line will probably be decent next year, but instead of spending money on a luxury WR, we could have spent that money on offensive linemen and had an elite O-line.

[chewman]

Adam Shefter just tweeted they still haven't talked about a contract yet and the 49ers are very interested. Anybody know what's going on?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Don't know if you're really responding to my post or not, but what I was saying is that I wish we would have signed some of the great FA O-linemen available(Asamoah, Beadles, Collins, Schwartz, Penn; that level of linemen), and not even pursued Jackson.



Yeah, we've addressed the O-line somewhat, but see my post above. None of the "holdover starters" except Williams and Lichtensteiger(at Center) are worth mentioning. Lavuao will merely be a solid starter, while McGlynn is probably pure depth. I too am hoping that some of the young blockers will step up, but it's not certain. We could have signed some of the aforementioned O-linemen and had a great line, but instead we skimped and saved(except for overpaying Lavuao) on the second most important group on the field, and now we're looking at spending that money on a luxury. If this strategy puts W's in the Win-Loss column, I'll be happy; but right now I don't think it's the way to go.

To sum it up: our line will probably be decent next year, but instead of spending money on a luxury WR, we could have spent that money on offensive linemen and had an elite O-line.

Well, either you could do that, or give RG3 the best trio of wide receivers in the league, with Reed at TE as a cherry on top, and a RB that MUST be accounted for. If the scheme change does anything, it should improve the line at least a little bit from last years disaster. If RG3 has a little more time in the pocket with these WR's, I cannot think of a more explosive possibility in a long time. This could really put our offense over the top, but it could also hamstring the hell out of our cap. I don't think there is much room for middle ground for this move in particular. Its either gonna set the world on fire, or fail miserably. I hope its the former.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Don't know if you're really responding to my post or not, but what I was saying is that I wish we would have signed some of the great FA O-linemen available(Asamoah, Beadles, Collins, Schwartz, Penn; that level of linemen), and not even pursued Jackson.

Yeah, we've addressed the O-line somewhat, but see my post above. None of the "holdover starters" except Williams and Lichtensteiger(at Center) are worth mentioning. Lavuao will merely be a solid starter, while McGlynn is probably pure depth. I too am hoping that some of the young blockers will step up, but it's not certain. We could have signed some of the aforementioned O-linemen and had a great line, but instead we skimped and saved(except for overpaying Lavuao) on the second most important group on the field, and now we're looking at spending that money on a luxury. If this strategy puts W's in the Win-Loss column, I'll be happy; but right now I don't think it's the way to go.

To sum it up: our line will probably be decent next year, but instead of spending money on a luxury WR, we could have spent that money on offensive linemen and had an elite O-line.

More than any other position group, the OL is about fit and chemistry. You threw a bunch of names out there and sure, they are attractive names but unless they all fit the scheme and profile Gruden is looking for, it could very well be wasted money. No team has an 'elite' offensive line anymore because it's not necessary. Have to have a good to very good OL to be successful. Our group can be good.

What grinds my gears around here is the notion that money/draft picks spent on another position was somehow stolen from the offensive line or that we've ignored that position group which is completely false.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sounds like an interesting dinner. Tell us more

Well it was held in one of the private rooms at Crystal City Ruth Chris, overlooking the Potomac/National Airport. Beautiful place. Just appetizers and drinks.

Brown and Campbell (who's father is Marion Campbell) discussed their roles and job descriptions. After that the crowd got to ask questions. Tough questions were asked about Snyder, Shanahan, Cerrato and the 08 draft class. In a nutshell, they took the highroad and said that some of the bad decisions were "Redskin" decisions. Campbell didn't hold back on Fred Davis and basically said his issues were on him. He also implied that Devin Thomas had the talent, and I almost felt that he wanted to blame the coaches for that one.

Larry Michael also spoke. He mentioned how great a talent evaluator Vinny Cerrato was. WTF?? He defended the decision to draft RG3, which wasn't a big deal. He sort of threw Shanahan under the bus w/out giving any details.

Oh...Deshawn Jackson was mentioned. Brown said that Jackson fits 2/3 things they look for, age, health and character. He said..."there are a few things there about character that we need to address"... I found that interesting.

Overall a fun night.

[Paintrain]

CSN Washington's Tarik El-Bashir reports that Jackson has left Redskins Park per league sources. No contract in place at this time.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

CSN Washington's Tarik El-Bashir reports that Jackson has left Redskins Park per league sources. No contract in place at this time.

Oh well. As the day wore on the less I want him. Just my gut speaking. I still say he is Silver and Black bond.

[MonkFan4Life]

Oh well

[mredskins]

then SI reported this:

Report calls DeSean Jackson signing with Washington Redskins 'done deal' | Audibles - SI.com

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Oh well. As the day wore on the less I want him. Just my gut speaking. I still say he is Silver and Black bond.

Niners have emerged as a suitor. Cali ties, better team. Their cap space is about the same as what we have plus they have to extend Kap. Also, I don't know how Jackson and Harbaugh would get along, but he's a players coach so they may be fine.

Whereas this morning I was thinking it was 75-25 it would happen, I'm back to 51-49 with the leaning going against it happening.

[takethecake]

If he did indeed leave without signing a contract (which is what it sounds like), I guarantee you it was a $$ thing. And if that's the case, I'm fine with it. If the skins don't want to hamstring themselves financially down the road, and the price is giving up a potentially explosive but very one-dimensional WR, I'm okay with it. Plenty of amazing WR prospects in the draft.

*cough* Jordan matthews *cough*

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What grinds my gears around here is the notion that money/draft picks spent on another position was somehow stolen from the offensive line or that we've ignored that position group which is completely false.

my gripe for the OL is that they didnt add a solid RT when there seemed to be a few guys avail for 3-5 mil per.

i guess you could put me in the crowd that thinks that if the skins arent going to save some money and transition 11% of the cap into next year, 8 mil per should have been spent on a FS and RT instead of a WR2.

in terms of team needs, FS and RT were my top 2 priorities and they have not been addressed at all.

either way im happy though. d jax or saving cap space will both benefit the team, just in different ways.

[That Guy]

i hope he realizes kap isn't that great at throwing to WRs.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

then SI reported this:

Report calls DeSean Jackson signing with Washington Redskins 'done deal' | Audibles - SI.com

If yo uread this article it says he planned to leave then come back later today to iron out the details. So leaving now may meaning nothing. Just the number crunchers going at it; no reason for Djax to hang out in the office like he is waiting to buy a car.