Manning's daddy to the rescue

[MTK]

I really have a problem with a player dictating where he goes in the draft. Now the Chargers don't have the trade leverage and they'll likely have to settle for less than they want to move out of the top spot. Like someone said earlier, this is a bush league move by the Manning family.

[Defensewins]

The Chargers could draft Gallery #1 and tell Eli, hey buddy you just lost out on some extra money.

[Carnage]

I was in San Diego on the day they released Seau and Rodney Harrison. Many in the papers speculated that the Chargers were deliberatly trying to destroy goodwill with the city so they could move to LA.
Whether or not it is deliberate SD has now eliminated ever veteran I can think of from their roster, while at the same time, becoming a very unattractive team to free agents. This has traditionaly been a recipe for long-term failure.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Let's try to be anaylitical here and not emotional for a moment.

1. The Giants want to trade up with the Chargers - purportedly to get Eli Manning. SUPPOSE the Chargers want to put pressure on the Giants to sweeten the deal. If this story just happens to get out and just happens to "get legs", the Giants might have to worry that the Chargers would go and shop that pick elsewhere. If the chargers panic, they will have to get a good deal for that pick of their fans will go nuts. Hence the Giants might be motivated to toss in a "pot sweetner". The Giants initial offer - in Florida - was the #4 pick this year and next year's first round pick. (That was the rumor.) Today's paper says the offer is now the #4 pick this year and a first next year and either a second next year or Ike Hilliard.


2. When Peyton Manning was drafted #1 by the Colts and signed with the Colts they were a disaster as a team. They had gone 3-13 and just plain stunk. Archie didn't pitch a fit then...


3. John Elway used the threat of playing baseball as the lever to get the Colts to trade him. Eli Manning is not a baseball player.


4. The only two players I can think of who actually carried out a threat to sit out a year were Sean Gilbert (he said that he did it because God told him to do it) and John Riggins (when he was with the Jets). Without making any determination regarding the communication between Gilbert and God, I can only say that would be taking direction from the Highest Authority. Riggins was just a flake at that juncture of his life! Other players have sat out a year as a matter of league suspension; but if another player actually held out for an entire year when healthy and eligible to play, I can't remember it. So the odds that Eli Manning will actually do it are slim.


5. But the threat of a hold-out really gives him a hammer if the Chargers do take him. The price of poker just went up!


Remember folks, this time of year is best described as "lying time". That applies to owners, GMs, coaches, agents, players, players' parents, used car salesmen and guys trying to pick up women in bars...

[beg8878]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Remember folks, this time of year is best described as "lying time". That applies to owners, GMs, coaches, agents, players, players' parents, used car salesmen and guys trying to pick up women in bars...

lol.....

got to love that line

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Carnage

I was in San Diego on the day they released Seau and Rodney Harrison. Many in the papers speculated that the Chargers were deliberatly trying to destroy goodwill with the city so they could move to LA.
Whether or not it is deliberate SD has now eliminated ever veteran I can think of from their roster, while at the same time, becoming a very unattractive team to free agents. This has traditionaly been a recipe for long-term failure.

that does make a bit of sense unfortunately. last night i heard the statistics for the team as far as it's ability to win: 4 winning seasons since the new ownership took over 20 some years ago, 4 seasons with 10 or more losses, and they haven't reached the playoffs in 9 years. i enjoyed watching the chargers play while i was living in san diego and hope that this isn't true because LA has had 2 chances with a football team and both times it failed.