Offensive Line and Depth

[Lotus]

Find me an NFL team where all of the second team offensive linemen play like first teamers.

[Swarley]

I bet I could find you more NFL teams that have 1st team o-linemen that play like 2nd team o-linemen

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I will say tho that if one of our first two draft picks next year in the draft isn't an OLineman, I will say with confidence that we will not make the playoffs that year and question my allegiance towards the skins. (it's just so hard for me to say I will not be a redskins fan ever again, because I just simply love them too much). So Zorn, Snyder, Cerrato, you better pick an OL with one of your first 2 picks in the draft or I'll be...pissed. Haha

Do us all a favor and jump ship now........Swami!!!

[saden1]

I've seen enough of Rinehart to believe that he is a decent temporary substitute but definitely not an every-down kind of guy you can depend on. I am certain that him and Heyer/Williams on the left side would be disastrous. You will definitely have to sacrifice a TE or a WR just to make sure JC isn't squished at every turn or CP isn't tacked for a loss. If we had a solid right tackle and a center I might have more confidence but we don't.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

I bet I could find you more NFL teams that have 1st team o-linemen that play like 2nd team o-linemen

ROFL....nice!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by saden1

I've seen enough of Rinehart to believe that he is a decent temporary substitute but definitely not an every-down kind of guy you can depend on. I am certain that him and Heyer/Williams on the left side would be disastrous. You will definitely have to sacrifice a TE or a WR just to make sure JC isn't squished at every turn or CP isn't tacked for a loss. If we had a solid right tackle and a center I might have more confidence but we don't.

I think that Rinehart is much improved from last year and has a lot of potential upside. Apparently some folks at Redskins Park think he should start over Randy Thomas. While we are terrifyingly thin at tackle, I think we are in reasonably good shape at guard.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I think that Rinehart is much improved from last year and has a lot of potential upside. Apparently some folks at Redskins Park think he should start over Randy Thomas. While we are terrifyingly thin at tackle, I think we are in reasonably good shape at guard.

Who are these some folks?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by saden1

Who are these some folks?

You can find them mentioned below, which is lifted from the article in the Redskins Youth thread:

OG Chad Rinehart ( N ) Rinehart took some serious strides this off-season. The Redskins took Rinehart with the third round pick last year and despite injuries on the Line, never saw real game time. That's pretty bad. He looked like a third round flop. One off-season has made a difference. Rinehart looks better, has earned praise form Joe Bugel, and looks to be a solid backup to Randy Thomas. That means he could see some playing time. In fact, some in Redskins Park wanted Rinehart to start over Thomas, but Thomas is the starter and will be the starter, unless injury comes. Just watching Rinehart in preseason was good enough for me to see a big difference in his play and not label him a bust. With Thomas' age and injury history the past two seasons, Rinehart could see himself in a starting role, sooner than expected. Clearly a player to keep an eye on. Rinehart starts the season as NEUTRAL.

[CRedskinsRule]

Well I have another name for anyone in who could say yay/nay. Bills just released Langston Walker. Money is always an issue, but if Dockery puts in a good word, who knows, he certainly seems to have some influence.

[CRedskinsRule]

and remember they just changed OC's, and have gotten rid of most of their line so it may be more the Bills than Walker. Who knows.

[Lotus]

You would think that Walker would be too expensive but it would be cool if we could nab him.

What the heck is going on in Buffalo? OC cut one week, starting LT cut the next, all on the season's eve.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You would think that Walker would be too expensive but it would be cool if we could nab him.

What the heck is going on in Buffalo? OC cut one week, starting LT cut the next, all on the season's eve.

And people here are all up in arms about us not carrying a 3rd QB or letting an undrafted rookie DT let go.

[T.O.Killa]

I heard from Mark Sckelereath, that Walker gave the word journey man a bad name.

[JoeRedskin]

I started a similar thread in April of last year: http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...ts-review.html

As a recap, at that time, our line and depth was as follows:
Starters: Jansen, Thomas, Rabach, Kendall, Samuels
Backups: Heyer, Todd Wade, Jason Fabini, OL Justin Geisinger, G/T Chad Rhinehardt, T Devin Clark

There were some other names but they disappeared. Pre-2008, I said we would need to replace at least two starters in the next year or two. It appears it will be more like 4 - Heyer for Jansen, Rhinehardt for Thomas, Montgomery for Rabach, Dockery for Kendall, Samuels.

It seems to me, that none of the replacements or projected replacements actually constitutes a real upgrade over the guy they replaced. Rather, more of a stopgap or "we got nobody better". Further, other than Heyer and Rhinehart, we didn't havent developed anyone in years and last year's projected depth couldn't make it through preseason this year (<ahem> Devin Clark).

I am hopeful that the master plan has a short terrm plan for upgrades, but right now it appears we are doomed to a mediocre line for the next several years.

[Trample the Elderly]

If the line holds up, I'll credit Buges with making shine-olla out of . . . .