How bad is our defense?

[CrazyCanuck]

The D is fckn BRUTAL.

I've never seen such a shtty secondary. Taylor can't play the long ball, Rogers can't cover or catch the ball, and they're the 2 best guys we have back there!

If they try, the Colts might score 100 on us.

[Oakland Red]

Getting Shawn Springs back will make a huge difference for us, because we were not able to be ourselves - rushing the passer with such effectiveness, instead having to stay back and protect the corners. The defense has a hard time changing its approach and I think it takes some of the enthusiasm away from the players.

Carlos Rogers isn't developing as fast as I would have liked, but he clearly has extraordinary physical talent and I just think he isn't comfortable yet enough with the Williams defense to play up to his ability.

Obviously we needed to pay more attention to depth at corner. But not only is Springs out but so is Prioleau, leaving Archuleta in on passing downs in a defense he doesn't yet understand.

These problems really show up against a team with outstanding receivers like the Giants have.

Hopefully we will pull up to 3-3, our team will become all the more focused on being comfortable in the scheme, maybe through simplification like the Giants did, Springs will come back in a few weeks, and we will make another late run at the playoffs.

Next year will be our Super Bowl chance - this year it looks like the Bears will at least be the heavy favorites for the NFC.

Hope is on the way. Pray for Springs to heal fast!

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by LadyT

You can attack the defense's play all day long, but not many teams win games when they can only muster 3 points on the board. We have all these offensive weapons and that's the best we can do?

Sadly, Brunell reverted to his form of the first two games today. He had at least two passes that should have been picked but were not. And the O-line played poorly too. The only player on "O" who stepped up was Cooley.

The "D" didn't play well either, but they still held one of the league's best offenses to 19 points and 1 TD.

On a lot of days, that should be enough to win. But not when your offense can't do squat.

Today, the Skins didn't play with any fire or passion, unlike last week. Hard to stomach when you're playing an important divisional opponent.

I blame the offensive game plan more than the offensive players. The Giants secondary has been reeling all year, yet Gibbs/Saunders didn't try to exploit that. They even deactivated Patton, who could have helped in 4 WR sets if Gibbs really wanted to challenge that secondary. Also, please don't let our defense off the hook. Yes, they only gave up 19 points, but they couldn't get the Giants offense off the field on numerous 3rd down plays. I don't believe the Giants even had a punt until the 4th quarter. We cannot win if we allow such a disparity in time of possession, and don't take advantage of turnovers to be had (Rogers dropped INT - yet again, Taylor strip recovered by NY).

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

It's hard to find any positives I know, but how about Taylor stripping Tiki of the ball trying to make something happen? He did his part there, if a teammate jumps on that ball it's a whole other ballgame

I think his unbreakable habbit thinking he is indestructible and missing tackles, and not even trying to wrapup defenders out weighs a strip any day. Thats like being okay with him helping time to time but more regularly passing the buck off to someone else who more than likely isnt in position to even help and stop. He lacks fundamentals and discipline to have respect in that manner.

[jbcjr14]

How bad is our defense?

VERY BAD...enough said

[jbcjr14]

Let us not forget that it was our best defensive player that got burnt down the middle of the field and then again for the td. All around shitty day for all three phases, but this defense is among the leagues worst.

[illdefined]

Taylor didn't miss any tackles those times, he'd strip them on their way down.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by illdefined

Taylor didn't miss any tackles those times, he'd strip them on their way down.

No im talking about sean taylor of the Redskins.

[hesscl34]

Sad times. It wasn't our day today....

[redsk1]

Not very good. No pass rush. Bad coverage by the secondary. Mediocre tackling.

Right now, it looks like to of our big signings are busts.

[SmootSmack]

I think the Ade deserves a start

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I think the Ade deserves a start

Yes. At least when he gets beat it's close. Do they even use him on defense or is he purely special teams right now? A little help?

[mheisig]

I think someone else mentioned it, but Carlos Rogers scares the hell out of me. He evidently was only good last year because he was covering the #2 guy or backing up Springs. Half the time I see the opposing team make a grab or a long run, Rogers is somewhere trying to catch up. And Archuleta isn't far behind him.

Taylor even looked bad today - but what do you expect when he has to basically man the entire secondary himself because Archuleta, Rogers and whoever the 4th back of the moment is are trying to figure out what a football looks like.

[SmootSmack]

Is it just me or does anyone else have nightmarish flashbacks to Tom Carter when seeing Carlos Rogers? Anyone else remember TC? Highly touted first-round pick back in '93. Supposed to be the heir apparent to Darrell Green as the next great Redskins CB. Man, what a waste he was.

I really hope the same doesn't end up being the case for Rogers

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Is it just me or does anyone else have nightmarish flashbacks to Tom Carter when seeing Carlos Rogers? Anyone else remember TC? Highly touted first-round pick back in '93. Supposed to be the heir apparent to Darrell Green as the next great Redskins CB. Man, what a waste he was.

I really hope the same doesn't end up being the case for Rogers

I would say he looks more like Daryll Pounds at this point. Tom Carter could at least cover the deep post.