Leonard Little issue

SKINSnCANES · 05-11-2004, 09:31 PM

People drink and drive all the time. Its technically a mistake everytime, the majority of the time no one gets arrested or killed from it. Ive had some drinks and driven before, so im not going to sit here and say that im better than him. If he wanst a nfl player hed probably be spending 30-90 days in jail right now

jellicoboy · 05-11-2004, 10:25 PM

Maybe a ban is a little tough, But he apparently hasn't been humbled. I really dont want the man to lose his job but I want him to see what hes done and doing. And about the guy who is from Asheville, Leonard dates a cop from Asheville and I know he has never done crack. Where do people get this stuff?
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lifetimeskin · 05-11-2004, 11:24 PM

once is a error in judgement, twice you are an idiot. He killed a person, it is not like he just got pulled over. He had all the resources in the world to help himself. I don't see how the justice system will go easy on him....if they do they will get "totaled" in the media!

For this guys own good, he need court mandated treatment either in the prison system or elsewhere.

sportscurmudgeon · 05-12-2004, 01:01 AM

lifetimeskin:

From what I read, he has already had "treatment" for the last several years.

At some point, the public - meaning you and me when we are walking down the street or driving our car to go and pick up some groceries - needs protection from people who drive drunk REPEATEDLY. As I said earlier on, if killing someone while driving drunk did not get the message through to this guy that this is "not a good thing to do", then I'm not sure how you are going to get that message through to him with any more treatment or counseling or self-esteem workshops. Next time he could run over a pregnant woman wheeling her twin boys in a stroller and kill them all. Wouldn't that be swell?

BleedBurgundy · 05-12-2004, 07:59 AM

I live in Italy where drunk driving is practically a national sport and we (the military community) are constantly seeing our young guys following suit. I've read several posts in this thread expressing the opinion that regardless of what he did, he has a right to make a living. That's true, but some of you may be interested to know that the military takes DUI/DWI so seriously that the first offense is often enough to end a persons career. The only way it doesn't is if the person in question is really young/new to the military. Then, they get dropped down in rank and put on restriction for 45 days with basically no paycheck. If you've been in the service for a while, one DUI/DWI and you're pretty much finished. The reason I'm saying all of this is that a person does have the right to make a living, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same line of work they are currently in. Especially if that line of work (NFL) is one with a high profile with a potentially great impact on others. (As a role model to kids, in this case.) I don't wish Little any harm, but I think his presence in the league is a disservice to the NFL's image and himself, as he can't seem to handle the lifestyle.

sportscurmudgeon · 05-12-2004, 01:15 PM

BleedBurgandy:

I am with you on this one. The current rage is to declare that someone's "right to earn a living" transcends everything else. It doesn't. If it did, then prison terms would be impossible because few if any people in their right mind would choose to earn their living as an "inmate".

Having spent considerable time in Italy, I understand the "DUI as a national sport" there. Alcohol is treated differently in Italy than it is here in the US. I remember walking up to a soda machine in Rome and one of the choices was Campari and soda. Imagine the furor here if someone tried to put a gin and tonic in a vending machine.

Stay safe...

05-11-2004, 09:31 PM	#31
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	People drink and drive all the time. Its technically a mistake everytime, the majority of the time no one gets arrested or killed from it. Ive had some drinks and driven before, so im not going to sit here and say that im better than him. If he wanst a nfl player hed probably be spending 30-90 days in jail right now __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-11-2004, 10:25 PM	#32
jellicoboy Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2	Leonard Maybe a ban is a little tough, But he apparently hasn't been humbled. I really dont want the man to lose his job but I want him to see what hes done and doing. And about the guy who is from Asheville, Leonard dates a cop from Asheville and I know he has never done crack. Where do people get this stuff? D

05-11-2004, 11:24 PM	#33
lifetimeskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 59 Posts: 84	once is a error in judgement, twice you are an idiot. He killed a person, it is not like he just got pulled over. He had all the resources in the world to help himself. I don't see how the justice system will go easy on him....if they do they will get "totaled" in the media! For this guys own good, he need court mandated treatment either in the prison system or elsewhere. __________________ ---lifetime skin

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05-12-2004, 01:01 AM	#34
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	lifetimeskin: From what I read, he has already had "treatment" for the last several years. At some point, the public - meaning you and me when we are walking down the street or driving our car to go and pick up some groceries - needs protection from people who drive drunk REPEATEDLY. As I said earlier on, if killing someone while driving drunk did not get the message through to this guy that this is "not a good thing to do", then I'm not sure how you are going to get that message through to him with any more treatment or counseling or self-esteem workshops. Next time he could run over a pregnant woman wheeling her twin boys in a stroller and kill them all. Wouldn't that be swell?

05-12-2004, 07:59 AM	#35
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	I live in Italy where drunk driving is practically a national sport and we (the military community) are constantly seeing our young guys following suit. I've read several posts in this thread expressing the opinion that regardless of what he did, he has a right to make a living. That's true, but some of you may be interested to know that the military takes DUI/DWI so seriously that the first offense is often enough to end a persons career. The only way it doesn't is if the person in question is really young/new to the military. Then, they get dropped down in rank and put on restriction for 45 days with basically no paycheck. If you've been in the service for a while, one DUI/DWI and you're pretty much finished. The reason I'm saying all of this is that a person does have the right to make a living, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same line of work they are currently in. Especially if that line of work (NFL) is one with a high profile with a potentially great impact on others. (As a role model to kids, in this case.) I don't wish Little any harm, but I think his presence in the league is a disservice to the NFL's image and himself, as he can't seem to handle the lifestyle.

05-12-2004, 01:15 PM	#36
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	BleedBurgandy: I am with you on this one. The current rage is to declare that someone's "right to earn a living" transcends everything else. It doesn't. If it did, then prison terms would be impossible because few if any people in their right mind would choose to earn their living as an "inmate". Having spent considerable time in Italy, I understand the "DUI as a national sport" there. Alcohol is treated differently in Italy than it is here in the US. I remember walking up to a soda machine in Rome and one of the choices was Campari and soda. Imagine the furor here if someone tried to put a gin and tonic in a vending machine. Stay safe...

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