Jay Gruden you are our only hope

[SirLK26]

I don't particularly like thinking about this, but if Gruden benches Griffin(which is likely if he keeps playing poorly) and still doesn't win with McCoy(also likely), I think there's a decent chance he'll be one and done here, unless he sticks with Griffin long enough to convince Snyder that he really is a lost cause.

I also wonder if Gruden makes Snyder uncomfortable with his criticism(both public and private)of Griffin? That might play a part too.

Firing Gruden after one year would be a very stupid move IMO. And I also don't think Griffin is a lost cause. What he needs the most right now is confidence. I think that would take care of a lot of issues(taking the wrong drop, for example) and allow Gruden and Griffin to focus on developing the things that really need to be developed(going through his reads, for example) and aren't just a matter of confidence/not thinking too much. And some stuff like feeling pressure in the pocket just comes with playing time. My two(disjointed and parenthesized) cents...

[Fan033]

Gruden's brutal assessment of RG seems accurate to me. Do we let RG keep playing for the rest of this debacle of a season or do we try to win with McCoy now?

[MTK]

^ Win what with McCoy exactly? This season is already lost. It's evaluation time.

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

^ Win what with McCoy exactly? This season is already lost. It's evaluation time.

I realize that it is important to give Griff every chance we can, but there are other players on the team that might not like losing. Winning is important. It is mentally important to the other players and this Staff to win games. Even if they are "meaningless".
In my heart I want Griff to succeed and pay off for us. It would be the best possible scenario for a handful of reasons. We wouldnt need to adress the QB position being the most important. In my head though I know its over. Sorry. Just how I see it. His mechanics, pocket awareness, and ability to see the field are God awful. If they were just bad than I would reserve hope. Just bad. They are God awful.
I think that winning is much needed for the confidence of this team and coaching staff going forward. It is not an exercise in futility because the games are meaningless. Holding out hope for Griff and more losing probably is though imo.


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[Bangee7]

Snyder has an ego, no doubt, but I really don't think he's dumb.

He watches games, probably even watches tape. He has to be slowly coming to the same realization that most of the rest of us are arriving at.

I agree with the sentiment that you never go into a game to lose....never.

Screw a few draft spots....we'd probably get the 2nd pick and mess it up again anyway!

[mredskins]

I am still baffled how folks thing colt is going role in here and we all sudden start hanging w's. Dude is a journey man at best.

[SirLK26]

^

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I am still baffled how folks thing colt is going role in here and we all sudden start hanging w's. Dude is a journey man at best.

I was baffled by him too, until I saw him with my own eyes win the Titans game, and the Dallas game. Do you really think, after seeing Griff play, that he could not have made the difference against the Vikings, Bucs, and Niners?



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[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I was baffled by him too, until I saw him with my own eyes win the Titans game, and the Dallas game. Do you really think, after seeing Griff play, that he could not have made the difference against the Vikings, Bucs, and Niners?



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Me and you never agree so for me to say that people or underestimating Colts value and success he can have is a reach. There is a reason he was brought in to Washington and he's looked good for his limited role so far.

RG3 is not done in the NFL but to keep playing him this year while he continues to play worse every week and not better is a mistake. There is nothing wrong with us lickin our wounds from what we paid to get him and have him carry a clipboard till his mechanics recover or get better.

Besides.. him playing worse every week gives us no value if they plan to go that route with him.

I made a prediction in another thread that mcCoy would come in this week and lead us to 4 straight wins doing his best Steve Young impression

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Me and you never agree so for me to say that people or underestimating Colts value and success he can have is a reach. There is a reason he was brought in to Washington and he's looked good for his limited role so far.



RG3 is not done in the NFL but to keep playing him this year while he continues to play worse every week and not better is a mistake. There is nothing wrong with us lickin our wounds from what we paid to get him and have him carry a clipboard till his mechanics recover or get better.



Besides.. him playing worse every week gives us no value if they plan to go that route with him.



I made a prediction in another thread that mcCoy would come in this week and lead us to 4 straight wins doing his best Steve Young impression

I think hell just froze over. Lmao. Completely agree with you, except that I really dont feel confident that Griff will make it in the NFL at this point. However I like the guy and I hope he does.


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[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I am still baffled how folks thing colt is going role in here and we all sudden start hanging w's. Dude is a journey man at best.

Your great wall of text thread ?? I'm not sure what you meant there. I came to this site because of all the BS on the other sites..If I can't post my thoughts here among other fans where can I ? And as far as Colt goes he is way better right now than RGIII. Prove me wrong.I would love to see RGIII make a turn around and become the franchise player we all hoped he would be..are you sure you are watching the same games I am? If I am wrong about Robert please somebody show me..

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Your great wall of text thread ?? I'm not sure what you meant there. I came to this site because of all the BS on the other sites..If I can't post my thoughts here among other fans where can I ? And as far as Colt goes he is way better right now than RGIII. Prove me wrong.I would love to see RGIII make a turn around and become the franchise player we all hoped he would be..are you sure you are watching the same games I am? If I am wrong about Robert please somebody show me..

Give Matty your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...
Lol.
I agree man. We all want RG-3 to be the man. We are all Skins fans. Im seeing the same sad thing you are...it sucks. Maybe this week something clicks. Stranger things have happened.


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[Lotus]

The Texas Noodle has given us our best QB passing game play. But that is not saying much. Also, the running game does not work as well when he is in because defenses don't respect his deep ball so defenders creep toward the line.

The Texas Noodle can manage games well but is ill prepared to carry the team.

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Well Skinsfan 69 just reported that noodle arm is getting the start Sunday so we will see...


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[Fan033]

All I know is McCoy won two games and Griffin looks totally and utterly lost. The players hate losing, the fans hate losing and Gruden hates losing. I think if it were up to Gruden, McCoy would be starting. But it's not up to Gruden.