Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Lotus

DMac5 knows all, says that Manning will not be a Redskin.

McNabb: 'Peyton's not gonna go' to the Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

I actually agree w/his logic, it would take quite a change to fit PM in to the existing O or to change the O to his strengths.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Maybe that's a poll question? Would you rather

A) Sign Peyton Manning (Without full assurance he's healthy)
B) Trade multiple picks including two 1sts for RG3

IMO based on you options there is no choice you would have to go with B. I only want a healthy PM.

[Gtothearry]

I don't think the price for RGIII will be as high as the current rumors. It's all head games at the moment.......

[musicmaster45]

Idk what to think RG3 is definatley the best. I am now wanting us to do the best we can to get him.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

How is the gap between RG3 and Tannehil not that big like some people are saying if RG3 is a day 1 starter and Tennehil needs to sit a year or 2? that is quite a difference to me

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

How is the gap between RG3 and Tannehil not that big like some people are saying if RG3 is a day 1 starter and Tennehil needs to sit a year or 2? that is quite a difference to me

Better arm strength, better accuracy, more experience at QB, and even better athleticism. The only real advantage Tannehill has is height and a slightly less risky style of play as well as recent experience in a pro style offense.

People have to realize there is a huge difference in both raw talent and intangibles between Luck/Griffin and the rest of the class. This isn't like last year where Gabbert, Ponder, Locker, and Dalton were all similar in terms of talent and intangibles.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Better arm strength, better accuracy, more experience at QB, and even better athleticism. The only real advantage Tannehill has is height and a slightly less risky style of play as well as recent experience in a pro style offense.

People have to realize there is a huge difference in both raw talent and intangibles between Luck/Griffin and the rest of the class. This isn't like last year where Gabbert, Ponder, Locker, and Dalton were all similar in terms of talent and intangibles.

I agree completely. Theres a reason a team will be able to get Tannehill much later than RG3. I dont want to settle on him, he would have to sit and develop im really hoping we pull the trigger and to move up to get RG3

[Mahons21]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

I agree completely. Theres a reason a team will be able to get Tannehill much later than RG3. I dont want to settle on him, he would have to sit and develop im really hoping we pull the trigger and to move up to get RG3

I would give Tannehill the nod in overall pocket presence, and footwork as well. Furthermore his experience in an NFL style offense have given him more practice in going through progressions.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

I agree completely. Theres a reason a team will be able to get Tannehill much later than RG3. I dont want to settle on him, he would have to sit and develop im really hoping we pull the trigger and to move up to get RG3

This is completely like last year, we had 2 WR's who stood out and the ones you mention we're the second tier level QB's. This yr we have 2 who have stood out and Tannehill, Cousins, and Weeden all being similar.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

How is the gap between RG3 and Tannehil not that big like some people are saying if RG3 is a day 1 starter and Tennehil needs to sit a year or 2? that is quite a difference to me

IMHO there is a gap between RGIII and Tannehill but it is not as large as some make it to be.

Ideally Tannehill would sit and learn for awhile. But, if need be, he could start year one. Not only does he have experience in a pro style offense, the offense that he has been running at A&M is pretty similar to ours. In this sense, his learning curve will be smaller than RGIII's. RGIII's offense was dissimilar to ours and did not require him to make advanced reads to boot.

I think Tannehill will be a very good NFL QB. Not with the skillset of RGIII of course but a good one nonetheless.

In these ways the gap between the two exists but is not huge.

[skinsfaninok]

If we have Manning or RG3/Luck next season we won't have a high draft pick

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we have Manning or RG3/Luck next season we won't have a high draft pick

That's the hope

[NC_Skins]

2012 NFL draft -- St. Louis Rams will trade No. 2 overall pick, sources say - ESPN


Notice the change of the word to "might trade" to "will trade". Somebody is getting a new toy this year. Wonder who that might be.

[Mahons21]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

2012 NFL draft -- St. Louis Rams will trade No. 2 overall pick, sources say - ESPN


Notice the change of the word to "might trade" to "will trade". Somebody is getting a new toy this year. Wonder who that might be.

INDY! and the Skins get the #1 overall.

Everything going on right now is a smokescreen, to coax Indy into trading back and acquiring RG3 paving the way for us to Andrew mo fuggin Luck

[GTripp0012]

Tannehill's bust potential is really high for me not because I don't think he can play, but because the comparisons being thrown out with Luck and Griffin are pointless. No one with the first overall pick in any draft would ever consider Ryan Tannehill with it.

I don't disagree with a coach who watches every snap Tannehill took at Texas A&M, sees a few advanced skills and things "I can certainly work with this." But you look at who NFL teams are trying so hard to replace at quarterback these days: Ryan Tannehill clones. It's so bizarre that teams are so desperate for quarterback upgrades that they'll consider quarterbacks who will inevitably need to be upgraded down the road.

The book on Tannehill is that you just need to sit in a cover two shell or something similar where you can defend the edges of the field. That's why I prefer guys like Foles and Cousins who can make more difficult bucket throws and can get the ball down the field. Foles and Cousins are far from sure things (though I think Foles is pretty safe if you buy into him being your guy...and there's no guarantee anyone will love him enough to start him) but I feel you can easily scheme out their weaknesses.

I suppose that you could do the same with Tannehill and try to give him open looks down the field, but his inability to throw at the Senior Bowl or Combine has simply left him unable to answer key questions about his downfield throwing, which was never impressive on tape, certainly not as impressive as his intermediate throwing.

The largest difference between Griffin and Tannehill is that when a defense starts to speed up RG3's clock and get a lot of pressure on him, he rises to the occasion. Tannehill just looks sped up.