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Old 03-11-2020, 04:08 PM   #1
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This is Haskins year to prove himself. NO ONE knows if he is the franchise QB. But he played well enough at the end of the rookie season to deserve a chance to show his stuff this season. If he DOESN’T improve and have a good season and wining games, then we will draft a QB in 2021. This year Haskin’s must show us if he’s the franchise QB or not.

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1. Haskins doesn't deserve a free run at the starting QB job. Football is supposed to be about competition. Are you worried about hurting his tender feelings if he has some competition? If his feelings are an issue, then I can tell you right now that he is not the right man for the job.

2. We shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket at the QB position. What if Haskins doesn't improve enough to win the job? Are we supposed to accept losing for an entire season hoping that we can get a promising QB in the next draft instead of giving another player a chance to succeed this season? I say no.

3. We don't have to draft Tua. There are other good QB prospects who will be available after the first round. We should draft someone like Jalen Hurts to push Haskins.
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:19 PM   #2
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Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

We got awarded a comp 4th. I think this gives us 3 4R now. Preston?
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:59 PM   #3
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I understand the thinking in drafting another QB, wherever you draft him. But the football logic isn't about hurting Haskins' feelings, or whatever, it's about being in a good place with your depth. Its one thing to have a camp battle for starter between a vet and a rookie, its another going into the season with a rookie battling a 2nd year. Your rookie wins that competition you need to trade your 2nd year guy fast and have a vet on standby, because you don't want your season in the hands of a rookie with just a demotivated 2nd year backing him up (who carries 3 QBs nowadays?) - you need the vet cover. Your 2nd year wins and your backup is a now probably demotivated rookie with no experience and obviously not good enough to start. So do you let the guy you just drafted drop to the PS while you bring a vet off the streets up to speed or do you pray that your rookie can step up when needed. Neither scenario is something a pro coach dreams about because the rarety of that working out is overshadowed by the far more likely probability that you end up with egg on your face.

If we draft Burrow or Tua, Haskins is out the door ASAP and we're scrabbling around for a decent vet to go into camp with, and likely long after the better guys were picked up in FA. If we draft a QB in the 2nd-4th round then you are in the above scenario, and likely the same problem in getting a good vet backup. Either way you'll have wasted last year's #15 or a 2nd/3rd/4th this year. With so many more needs I just don't see it.

It's not the same situation as Arizona because Rosen had a fair chance and stunk. Haskins was improving after starting the year with a coach that didn't even want him. I say play out this season and if he looks like he won't get it draft a QB next year to build on a roster you built up this year.
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If it wasn't for chase young, we would not be mad at Tua going to us at #2
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Old 03-11-2020, 09:45 PM   #5
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If it wasn't for chase young, we would not be mad at Tua going to us at #2


Yeah I would, Haskins hasn’t shown anything to make us think he’s a bust. In fact I’d say his bust potential is low.


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Yeah I would, Haskins hasn’t shown anything to make us think he’s a bust. In fact I’d say his bust potential is low.


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He was great the last 2 weeks, I believe he can be good. Tua has the higher upside w/out the injuries of course.
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Old 03-12-2020, 08:58 AM   #7
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He was great the last 2 weeks, I believe he can be good. Tua has the higher upside w/out the injuries of course.


You can’t take away the injuries though, it’s a significant red flag


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You can’t take away the injuries though, it’s a significant red flag


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Correct but two good games doesn't constituted fully believing in Haskins. Also, lets not forget Haskins season was end prematurely due to injury as well.

Also i wonder how far DH would have dropped if we didn't draft him.

I am leaving this one up to RR.
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:37 AM   #9
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Glad you are back safely. Do not think 3 picks will be offered. A very tough decision if so but Simmons, a LT and a top tier WR sound great. But so does Chase Young. If Skins can get that high offer no complaint but much less, no thanks.
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Glad you are back safely. Do not think 3 picks will be offered. A very tough decision if so but Simmons, a LT and a top tier WR sound great. But so does Chase Young. If Skins can get that high offer no complaint but much less, no thanks.
Agree, if we wanted #2 pick we would have to give up a lot.
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Old 03-12-2020, 09:34 AM   #11
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Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

I'm not saying that we should draft Tua. I just don't see any reason to avoid drafting a promising young QB this year or any year. For example, Jordan Love or Jalen Hurts could become good NFL QB's. It is my understanding that the rosters have been expanded by one more player for next season. There is your opening to carry a third QB. Why not have two young QB's and a veteran backup? Why wait to add and develop a second young QB when your starter could be hurt at any time? Also, if your starter falters, why not have another young QB who has had some development time and is ready to go? Does the name Kirk Cousins sound familiar?
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I'm not saying that we should draft Tua. I just don't see any reason to avoid drafting a promising young QB this year or any year. For example, Jordan Love or Jalen Hurts could become good NFL QB's. It is my understanding that the rosters have been expanded by one more player for next season. There is your opening to carry a third QB. Why not have two young QB's and a veteran backup? Why wait to add and develop a second young QB when your starter could be hurt at any time? Also, if your starter falters, why not have another young QB who has had some development time and is ready to go? Does the name Kirk Cousins sound familiar?
This would be the argument to drafting Tau. I agree with you. Plus two rookie QBs doesn't use up a bunch of $$$ either.
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This would be the argument to drafting Tau. I agree with you. Plus two rookie QBs doesn't use up a bunch of $$$ either.
Although it could be used as an argument to draft Tua, I didn't intend it that way. I was thinking the Skins could go ahead and draft Chase Young or trade the pick for a king's ransom. Then, if another QB they like falls in the draft they shouldn't hesitate to draft him.
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Never said I fully believe in Haskins, I don’t think anyone is saying that.

He gave us just enough where I want to see more.


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Never said I fully believe in Haskins, I don’t think anyone is saying that.

He gave us just enough where I want to see more.


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I am playing devils advocate here. I am not 100% in the Tau boat.

Taking your statement above why not draft Tau and let the best man win at the most important position in football. You could "see" both at the same time.
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