Trouble in Redskins Park?

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by calia

I am not saying I assume everything is OK. But I am saying that I'd prefer to work off of fact. I know -- radical idea these days.

So the fact that Scot McCloughan had a gag order put on him isn't a cause for concern? A GM can't speak at the Senior Bowl? Can't speak at the NFL Combine? Doesn't even show up to the NFL Combine? Meanwhile, Bruce Allen uses the excuse of a grandmother dying as the reason why McCloughan is still home, yet granny died a few weeks ago? You think it takes over three weeks to get back to work from bereavement?

How about those facts?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I just don't understand how you miss the combine. It doesn't make sense.

Exactly. How does your GM who lives for the draft not go to the combine? He's gone and it's a shame. Just really hope that once he's out that we don't go back to doing business the old way. I can't stomach that shit anymore.

[calia]

Originally Posted by metalskins

So the fact that Scot McCloughan had a gag order put on him isn't a cause for concern? A GM can't speak at the Senior Bowl? Can't speak at the NFL Combine? Doesn't even show up to the NFL Combine? Meanwhile, Bruce Allen uses the excuse of a grandmother dying as the reason why McCloughan is still home, yet granny died a few weeks ago? You think it takes over three weeks to get back to work from bereavement?

How about those facts?

Is the gag order a known fact? I know it has been reported, but has anyone actually confirmed it? And do you profess to know anything about the memorial arrangements for his grandmother? I don't. And with all due respect, I doubt you do either. It isn't entirely unprecedented for memorial services to take place some number of weeks after someone dies -- I am headed to one on March 16 for someone who passed away on February 24.

But by all means -- let's all panic and assume the worst here.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Exactly. How does your GM who lives for the draft not go to the combine? He's gone and it's a shame. Just really hope that once he's out that we don't go back to doing business the old way. I can't stomach that shit anymore.

The man in your avatar might be in for a promotion. who knows? I think the Redskins definitely need a GM/Head of Player Personnel guy not named Bruce Allen.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by calia

Is the gag order a known fact? I know it has been reported, but has anyone actually confirmed it? And do you profess to know anything about the memorial arrangements for his grandmother? I don't. And with all due respect, I doubt you do either. It isn't entirely unprecedented for memorial services to take place some number of weeks after someone dies -- I am headed to one on March 16 for someone who passed away on February 24.

But by all means -- let's all panic and assume the worst here.

LOL!!! Yes, it's been confirmed that the gag order was put in place. Bruce Allen himself said that Scot would no longer be speaking to the media. Secondly, it was a 100 year old grandmother. What do you think?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by calia

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But by all means -- let's all panic and assume the worst here.

It is the Redskins by all means, a person assuming the worse is rarely disappointed since Snyder bought the team. Also Scottie Mac has drank himself out of two jobs where he had success.

[calia]

Ignore all my prior posts: We're f_cked, the McCloughan era is over, no FAs will sign with us for that reason, and as a direct consequence we will revert to a sub.500 team for the next few decades.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by calia

I realize that you often have inside information (if memory serves, you work with the team or did at one point), and I respect your views a lot. And it is impossible to disagree with your statement about the importance of the combine -- it's really self-evident. I just don't want to speculate and assume the worst here; after 20 years of doing that (with reason), I am hoping for a level of respectability for this franchise and for a reasonable, non-doomsday explanation.

Covered the team. Offered jobs multiple times with them, but never worked for them

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Appearing on 106.7 The Fan in D.C., the Washington Post's Mike Jones referred to NFL Network's "report" of a three-way trade involving Kirk Cousins, Tony Romo, and the 49ers as "fake."

Jones seems to believe Redskins president Bruce Allen used NFL Network's Ian Rapoport as a mouthpiece to spread the rumor as a misinformation tactic with the Redskins embroiled in front-office drama. Ultimately, the Redskins decided giving Jay Gruden a two-year extension would be better P.R. "Bruce was like, alright we gotta do something because my fake Ian Rapoport Redskins three-way trade thing didn't work to change the story." Jones suggested the Redskins are now seen as so dysfunctional NFL agents are wary of their players signing with Washington because they're unaware of who's in charge. GM Scot McCloughan did not attend the Combine and is expected to be let go after April's draft.


just wow

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Appearing on 106.7 The Fan in D.C., the Washington Post's Mike Jones stated the Redskins and GM Scot McCloughan are "headed to a divorce."

Jones essentially stated that Jay Gruden's two-year extension was a P.R. move amid organizational chaos. "And that's the sad thing, because Scot is such a good dude," said Jones. "Loves football. Eats, drinks, sleeps it. You talk to guys who've worked with him in the league, and all he does is watch football and unfortunately drink. There's frictions that are going on there between him and (team president) Bruce Allen ... some type of blowup. This thing is headed to a divorce." Jones guessed McCloughan's exit will be made official after April's draft.

All I do besides work is drink beer and watch sports. If Bruce Allen has that much pull over the GM he should just be the GM. Who else is going to want to come in if GM is just a title but Allen still calls all the shots.

[rocnrik]

FAKE NEWS!!!! I don't believe nothing I read anymore without serious doubts... I love it when these so called sports reporters leak out all this info and 99% of it is BS!! Truth is there are probably only 4 people that really know whats going on with Scott..it is Snyder,Allen,Gruden and Scott. same with Cousins . we will know when we know.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

FAKE NEWS!!!! I don't believe nothing I read anymore without serious doubts... I love it when these so called sports reporters leak out all this info and 99% of it is BS!! Truth is there are probably only 4 people that really know whats going on with Scott..it is Snyder,Allen,Gruden and Scott. same with Cousins . we will know when we know.

I agree....this too shall pass.

Many of these folks probably have good reason to dislike the Danny, goodness knows he brought much of this on himself.

But seriously, the guy hasn't been visible for 2-3 years & yet all these "butt hurt" reporters keep jabbing.

At the end of the day, I personally don't care if there is dysfunction. There's been plenty of dysfunction in Dallas for years & one great draft later, everyone is happy.

So, let's get our great draft (I don't care who makes the picks or gets the credit for it) & let's win some playoff games.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by smootsmack

scot and gruden generally do get along. I don't think it quite came out the way he meant it. Scot and allen is really where the real dissension is. I don't want to get into it because it would mean bringing up "he who shall not be named again" but the gm job was aj smith's to have, but snyder shot it down over a strong disagreement over "he who shall not be named"

rg3?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

All I do besides work is drink beer and watch sports. If Bruce Allen has that much pull over the GM he should just be the GM. Who else is going to want to come in if GM is just a title but Allen still calls all the shots.

Who's to blame for the meh drafts, free agent busts and the Cousins contract screw up? Where's the proof that Scot is somehow indispensable and all hell will break loose if he departs?

I like the idea of a competent "football guy" GM as much as the next Skins fan, but what exactly has Scot done? And what IF he's a mess personally and can't keep his act together?

All Skins fault? I don't get the sense this is the total dumpster fire the media is making it out to be. They have an axe to grind, because they're being kept out of the loop.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who's to blame for the meh drafts, free agent busts and the Cousins contract screw up? Where's the proof that Scot is somehow indispensable and all hell will break loose if he departs?

I like the idea of a competent "football guy" GM as much as the next Skins fan, but what exactly has Scot done? And what IF he's a mess personally and can't keep his act together?

All Skins fault? I don't get the sense this is the total dumpster fire the media is making it out to be. They have an axe to grind, because they're being kept out of the loop.

No axe to grind.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I think there are certain media people that will just never say anything good about the Redskins, like Florio, but unfortunately they're the ones everyone focuses on. That's the same in news in general. You always here way more about bad stuff than good stuff. I wish Cooley didn't say what he did, even if it's 100% true. But if he didn't someone else would have. And if SM is showing signs of being a drunk again then he brought it on himself. Hopefully he has it together or can get it together because I'd prefer he stuck around.

We already extended Jay and if we finalize a contract with Kirk all the other stuff will fall by the way side and we can talk about strictly football again.