Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cousins will play well enough to get us the trade value for him next offseason we were looking for this offseason

So Griffin will be the QB next year ? How much rehabbing has he done since 2009 ?So in the last 5-6 seasons he has had 3 season ending injury's and yes this ankle is a season ender ,why take the chance ?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So Griffin will be the QB next year ? How much rehabbing has he done since 2009 ?So in the last 5-6 seasons he has had 3 season ending injury's and yes this ankle is a season ender ,why take the chance ?

QB durability can change though. I remember there was a time where Aaron Rodgers made the likes of Sam Bradford and RG3 look like Cal Ripken Jr by comparison.

New England Patriots vs. Green Bay Packers - Box Score - November 19, 2006 - ESPN

On November 19, 2006 Rodgers broke his left foot while playing against the New England Patriots in a 0-35 defeat at home, filling in for an injured Brett Favre, and Rodgers missed the remainder of the 2006 season

Keep in mind Favre started that game and played long enough to attempt 15 passes.

Before Rodgers became the starter he was actually injured more often than Favre.

From 2008: NFL Forum :: - Aaron Rodgers Injury Prone?

What does everyone say AR is injury prone?

Patriots Game: Freak play when some dude stepped on his foot. Still played the rest of the game with a broken foot. Keep in mind, it was against the NFL's best and most confusing defense for young QBs. It was also his R season.

Practice: M3 (btw, why is he called M3 I don't get it) said that he probably could have played the next week, but didn't want to risk any further injury. It was also on the last play of practice, a little bit of a freak injury.

Thoughts?

Don't forget his screwed up knee in high school, which he screwed up again twice more in college, and eventually required surgery.

[Dirtbag59]

Everything I've seen up until now suggest a 6-8 week recovery on a dislocated ankle.

In general, it takes about 6 to 8 weeks for the bones to unite. However, every case is unique, as no two fractures are exactly alike.

Ankle Dislocation Rehab Protocol

- Patient will be walking with crutches and touchdown (toe-touch) weight bearing on the surgical leg for 4 - 6 weeks post-op.
- Patient will be in a removable boot for 6 weeks or longer, pending x-rays.

Prognosis of a dislocated ankle
Many patients with a dislocated ankle heal well with appropriate physiotherapy and return to normal function. This may take weeks to months to achieve an optimal outcome. However, due to the severity of injury and widespread connective tissue damage associated with this condition, patients may experience long term effects. The most common long term effect of a dislocated ankle is an increased likelihood of future dislocation or ankle sprain with relatively minor trauma. In cases of recurrent ankle dislocation, surgical intervention may be indicated to increase the ankle's stability. This is usually followed by an extensive rehabilitation program lasting many months.

Then of course the more specific news related to our esteemed QB.

RG3's dislocated ankle could cost him 6-8 wks

According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Robert Griffin III's ankle dislocation could still shelve him 6-8 weeks despite the fact that Monday's MRI revealed no fracture.
Initial reports had the timetable at 4-5 weeks. Griffin's absence will simply depend on how quickly he recovers. Whether he regains his starting job upon return is entirely unclear, as well. Fantasy owners can freely drop Griffin in 10- and 12-team leagues. He was playing poorly before the injury, and is now in danger of losing the first-team quarterback job outright to Kirk Cousins.

....maybe I should have started with that last part...nah, to much sense that would make.

[Lotus]

"Does he do some good, some bad and leave enough question that they should go back to the 'starter' when RG is healthy?"

My choice from those listed above. IMO Cousins will give us fine outings like yesterday. He'll also give us three interception nightmares.

The good thing is that the rest of the team may be good enough so that we are still in it.

[Alvin Walton]

I think my crush on Griffin is over.
I thought he was going to take us to at least a couple super bowls but now I dont.
He tries to over achieve and do things his paper tiger body cant do.
I am hoping Cousins takes us to the playoffs and Griffin sits the rest of the year.
Then trade him (Griffin) as soon as we can.
Looking back I was in total favor of giving up the picks we did.
Now I regret it.
I would never do that again.

[Fiversons]

I hate to say it, but for the first time since drafting both of them, I think we will have a legitimate QB controversy in 8 weeks or whenever III returns... Assuming Captain Kirk plays well, which I expect him to do...

[SFREDSKIN]

I don't expect RGIII back this year, after I saw his face while being carted out, the man was in so much pain he was crying. I'm being realistic, I hope I'm wrong.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't expect RGIII back this year, after I saw his face while being carted out, the man was in so much pain he was crying. I'm being realistic, I hope I'm wrong.

I caught my **** in my zipper once. It hurt so bad I almost cried but it didn't keep me out of action for long.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I caught my **** in my zipper once. It hurt so bad I almost cried but it didn't keep me out of action for long.

Sorry for your shortness

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

I hate to say it, but for the first time since drafting both of them, I think we will have a legitimate QB controversy in 8 weeks or whenever III returns... Assuming Captain Kirk plays well, which I expect him to do...

Cousins has a unique talent for playing well enough to help the team avoid a meltdown, but shaky enough to make it difficult to remove RG3. Still anyone remember the MELTDOWN following the Redskins using a draft pick on Cousins?

[Sorry I had to settle for Stephen 'Don't give him a reason to hit you' A. Smith and Skip 'I swear I'm not a racilist' Bayless but I couldn't find original draft footage]

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Cousins has a unique talent for playing well enough to help the team avoid a meltdown, but shaky enough to make it difficult to remove RG3. Still anyone remember the MELTDOWN following the Redskins using a draft pick on Cousins?

[Sorry I had to settle for Stephen 'Don't give him a reason to hit you' A. Smith and Skip 'I swear I'm not a racilist' Bayless but I couldn't find original draft footage]

I give Captain Kirk a pass last year... The entire team was just god awful, so I can't really put too much blame on Kirk... I am not saying he is going to be a stud, but if he is an above average QB, which I think he is, then I don't see how we can let him go this season and bank on RGIII to be the face of the franchise... To me, that would be insanity...

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Cousins has a unique talent for playing well enough to help the team avoid a meltdown, but shaky enough to make it difficult to remove RG3. Still anyone remember the MELTDOWN following the Redskins using a draft pick on Cousins?

[Sorry I had to settle for Stephen 'Don't give him a reason to hit you' A. Smith and Skip 'I swear I'm not a racilist' Bayless but I couldn't find original draft footage]

I never disagreed with drafting a second QB there but I did argue against Cousins. I wanted Lindley. And Lindley's stellar career has certainly vindicated my choice.

[Defensewins]

Too soon to make that call RGIII vs. KC.
Frankly I am tired of waiting for RGIII, between knee injury and bad play once he returned, this preasons and game 1 were ugly.
I am ready to give KC a chance to see what he has. I am not saying KC will be the next Peyton Manning. I just want to give him a fair chance with a team that gives him a chance to win. Which is what I THINK we might have. We will see.
IF KC keeps winning, RGIII should sit once he is healthy.
This about winning not a Snyeratto move.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Too soon to make that call RGIII vs. KC.
Frankly I am tired of waiting for RGIII, between knee injury and bad play once he returned, this preasons and game 1 were ugly.
I am ready to give KC a chance to see what he has. I am not saying KC will be the next Peyton Manning. I just want to give him a fair chance with a team that gives him a chance to win. Which is what I THINK we might have. We will see.
IF KC keeps winning, RGIII should sit once he is healthy.
This about winning not a Snyeratto move.

I couldn't have said it better myself... I was a huge RGIII believer, and I would still be if he could stay healthy, but he can't... RGIII might have a higher ceiling than Kirk, but how long is it going to take for him to get there? And more importantly, can he stay healthy long enough to get there even if he can? I see the type of success Luck and Wilson are having, and I can't justify simply drinking the Kool Aid blind anymore... I am still a RGIII fan, but I am a bigger fan of the Redskins... If Captain Kirk has success while RGIII is out, which I think he will, we would be damn stupid to trade him and bank of III staying healthy and reaching his ceiling, how ever high that might be...

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

I couldn't have said it better myself... I was a huge RGIII believer, and I would still be if he could stay healthy, but he can't... RGIII might have a higher ceiling than Kirk, but how long is it going to take for him to get there? And more importantly, can he stay healthy long enough to get there even if he can? I see the type of success Luck and Wilson are having, and I can't justify simply drinking the Kool Aid blind anymore... I am still a RGIII fan, but I am a bigger fan of the Redskins... If Captain Kirk has success while RGIII is out, which I think he will, we would be damn stupid to trade him and bank of III staying healthy and reaching his ceiling, how ever high that might be...

Steadily good beats unrealized potential in my book. Truth be told who really knows what Cousins ceiling is, really? Sure Griffin is more athletic and faster but that is not all a quarterback makes. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Breeds don't have those qualities but they have decent careers and their stats aren't too shabby. :-)

I'm by no means saying Big Cous will play as well as those three, just that the jury isn't out on him yet. I'm going to wait and go by how he plays THIS season, then go from there.