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Hey Gibbs, You Need a New Playbook

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View Poll Results: How would you evaluate the playcalling this season?
It stinks 23 63.89%
It's the players, not the playcalling; Gibbs shouldn't change the playcalling 13 36.11%
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:01 PM   #16
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Even if we used shotgun it wouldn't work. Our QB would get killed.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:04 PM   #17
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That penalty orgy starting at the 10 yard line didn't help the situation either.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:45 PM   #18
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Right at the begining of the game Gibbs should have had Ramsy air it out 3 or four times to get those 7 or eight guys out of the box. He should have mixed it up the entire game.

This total conservative aproach is so painfull to watch.
Yet last week people (and I'm not saying you rickmmrr) were complaining that Gibbs should have run more and wasn't being conservative enough to start the game
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:13 PM   #19
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Is it just me, or did pass protection look good today? Ramsey (aka mini-Bledsoe) got sacked once. So what's up with all the criticism of the O-line (aside from penalties)?
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:26 PM   #20
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I'm sorry but what is up with "hey Gibbs, you need a new playbook"

While I understand not following a coach (or Quarterback) blindly, us LONG time Redskins fans happen to know what Joe Gibbs is capable of doing for this team and those who are buying into the media bandwagon that the game has passed him by know absolutely nothing about football.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:28 PM   #21
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Yet last week people (and I'm not saying you rickmmrr) were complaining that Gibbs should have run more and wasn't being conservative enough to start the game
I was about to say the same thing.

Just just can't win, LOL.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

For every situation there will always be someone to second guess it.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:29 PM   #22
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Is it just me, or did pass protection look good today? Ramsey (aka mini-Bledsoe) got sacked once. So what's up with all the criticism of the O-line (aside from penalties)?
Nada, aside from the penalties. But I can't help but wonder if the complexion of the game takes on a whole different tone if we don't get nailed for 20 pen yds on 3 plays from that 1st and goal on the 10. I thought the O-line did a great job of protection today and I was surprised that Coach didn't have us throwing downfield sooner in game when it looked like the line was gonna hold. But then again, it looked like on a lot of the throws downfield the timing was still off between PR and recievers.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:31 PM   #23
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Is it just me, or did pass protection look good today? Ramsey (aka mini-Bledsoe) got sacked once. So what's up with all the criticism of the O-line (aside from penalties)?
Pass protection was better than it's been, but I thought the run blocking was pretty piss poor a lot of the time. We were getting blown up on some running plays leaving the backs nowhere to go or a defender right in their face once they received the handoff.

Aside from the penalties? Like that wasn't a big deal?

How many penalties did the line have today? It was quite a few.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:32 PM   #24
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Gibbs was trying to establish a ball controlled game plan that would feature our best offensive player, Portis, while keeping the Eagles' offense OFF the field. Seems like a wiser game plan to me. If we took more shots downfield (which a few more than maybe we have had) then you could be looking at more three and outs and less time of possession...which giving it to the Eagles O more is just not smart.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:34 PM   #25
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There were several false starts....
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:34 PM   #26
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Hey Skinsguy,

1. I am a LONG time Redskins fan

2. We haven't scored 20 points yet

3. We haven't scored so few points per game since the 1930s!
*FYI - FDR was the President then

I've been pretty reasonable in my assessments of Gibbs. I've said and still say that he will turn this team around. I've said that the game hasn't passed Gibbs by. I've said he's a great man and he has a brilliant mind.

But excuse me if I criticize him. Have you been watching our offense? It has NEVER looked this bad (at least in my 26 years of existence). The playcalling is awful. Do you disagree? If you think the playcalling has been good, we should just agree to disagree because there is no common ground between the two of us.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:36 PM   #27
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I was about to say the same thing.

Just just can't win, LOL.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

For every situation there will always be someone to second guess it.
Who? I don't recall anyone saying that.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:37 PM   #28
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Pass protection was better than it's been, but I thought the run blocking was pretty piss poor a lot of the time. We were getting blown up on some running plays leaving the backs nowhere to go or a defender right in their face once they received the handoff.

Aside from the penalties? Like that wasn't a big deal?

How many penalties did the line have today? It was quite a few.
The penalties didn't cause us to lose the game. They killed one drive and one scoring opportunity. We got spanked.

The playcalling was dreadful and, IMO, that was the #1 (although not the only) reason why we lost.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:40 PM   #29
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I was about to say the same thing.

Just just can't win, LOL.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

For every situation there will always be someone to second guess it.
You got the "just can't win" part right. At 3-7, I think Gibbs deserves to be second guessed. If we were 7-3 no one would be second guessing him.

But, we're not 7-3 - hence the criticism.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:41 PM   #30
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Who? I don't recall anyone saying that.
Huh?

There were many people and a couple of threads talking about how we should have pounded it against Cincy last week.

We tried to come out throwing and before we knew it the score was 14-0.

This week we had a stronger commitment to running and kept the game close for a good portion of it. I still say this game came down to execution. We had a few breakdowns at key times that really cost us the game.

Could the offense have been a bit more wide open? Yeah I agree it could have, but for the most part it was a solid gameplan that kept us in the game, and it was poor execution that led to our 2nd half collapse.
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