Landry is at it again

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's not really my thing but it means a lot to a lot of people, especially kids. When I was a kid I used to love going with my brother and dad to Woodward and Lothrop's and getting autographs from guys like Mosely, Theismann, Riggins, Joe Washington. As I've gotten older and because of the work I do, I prefer a handshake and a few minutes of conversation.

But LaRon hasn't shown to be reliable anywhere but on the field. Ultimately, I suppose that's all that should matter.

Respectfully, I disagree. I'm in the same boat you are as far as autographs are concerned. I could care less if I have the dude's name written on piece of paper or photograph - like you I'd rather a handshake and conversation. But this shows his arrogance and lack of humility. I know he's still young, and hopefully he'll learn to respect and appreciate the fans as time goes on.

I'll say that his on-field reliability IS all that matters to the Redskins as far as wins and losses. But it's not all that SHOULD matter. Missing an autograph event(s) isn't against the law or against team or league rules. But it lets down fans, most of whom are little kids. It's a shame that guys have the arrogance to think they are too good for the rabid fan base that ultimately helps them get so rich in the first place. Maybe his absurd athletic ability outweighed his iffy "character" when Gibbs was evaluating him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm THRILLED Landry is a Redskin. I just hope he gets his head out of the clouds.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Respectfully, I disagree. I'm in the same boat you are as far as autographs are concerned. I could care less if I have the dude's name written on piece of paper or photograph - like you I'd rather a handshake and conversation. But this shows his arrogance and lack of humility. I know he's still young, and hopefully he'll learn to respect and appreciate the fans as time goes on.

I'll say that his on-field reliability IS all that matters to the Redskins as far as wins and losses. But it's not all that SHOULD matter. Missing an autograph event(s) isn't against the law or against team or league rules. But it lets down fans, most of whom are little kids. It's a shame that guys have the arrogance to think they are too good for the rabid fan base that ultimately helps them get so rich in the first place. Maybe his absurd athletic ability outweighed his iffy "character" when Gibbs was evaluating him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm THRILLED Landry is a Redskin. I just hope he gets his head out of the clouds.

I hear you. All I was trying to get at was would we rather have a hard-hitting, flying free safety who helps us win games on the field but continuously breaks commitments to fans and the media (and in turn the fans again), or a malcontent WR that doesn't take the field but writes cool training camp blogs? I mean if we have to sacrifice something about Landry, I'd rather it be this.

But you're right though, he certainly should have a bit more respect for the fans. And for me, I think respect could be as simple as just saying "You know what, this isn't my thing. I don't feel comfortable with it so don't ask me to do these" I think people would rather hear that than "Yeah, yeah sure I'll be there....Oh, sorry. Something came up"

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I hear you. All I was trying to get at was would we rather have a hard-hitting, flying free safety who helps us win games on the field but continuously breaks commitments to fans and the media (and in turn the fans again), or a malcontent WR that doesn't take the field but writes cool training camp blogs? I mean if we have to sacrifice something about Landry, I'd rather it be this.

But you're right though, he certainly should have a bit more respect for the fans. And for me, I think respect could be as simple as just saying "You know what, this isn't my thing. I don't feel comfortable with it so don't ask me to do these" I think people would rather hear that than "Yeah, yeah sure I'll be there....Oh, sorry. Something came up"

Well put. As long as his transgressions don't go beyond missing autograph signings, I'm fine. But you're right, he should come out say it's not his thing rather than commit and no-show.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by firstdown

There's something weird about a guy wanting another guy's signature.

LOL!!! I've never been into the autograph thing. I just don't understand it. As long as Landry plays like he did against Seattle I really don't care if he blows off autograph signings.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mcarey032

First of all when you are getting an autograph, it isn't about just getting them sign something, you actually get to talk to the players and ask them questions and what not. Yesterday at that show was a great experience! Pat Fischer, Ron McDole, Mike Nelms, Mark May, George Starke, and Bill Brundige couldn't have been nicer! I talked to them asked them questions about games and football and they were really affable. Pat Fischer and McDole were really funny. Fischer was talking trash to this guy in a Riggins jersey saying he would take him down right here and right now. Fischer was kidding me about signing his autograph. He said to me, how do you spell Theismann? He was funny, McDole was funny as well. Mike Nelms let put on his Super Bowl Ring and he was kidding me about trying to take his ring out of the building. Mark May was cool, he and I talked about Notre Dame football and what he thought the chances of getting above .500. Basically, the overall message here is that it isn't about just getting a signature, but it is an opportunity to talk to the players you respect. If people don't like getting autographs, then you don't have to bother. Laron, if you don't like money from the fans and making them angry that you don't show, then don't bother signing the contract. I wouldn't get a modern player's signature because I would be afraid that they wouldn't be here that long. I do think that Laron should man up and follow through on his obligations. He is starting his career out here very similar to how Sean Taylor did.

I'll tell you one thing that I'll never ever forget about ST. I go out to Ashburn every training camp. Only about a 20 min drive from my house. ST dissed the reporters but he'd sit there after practice and sign every single autograph request. He'd sit there and sign and take pictures with the fans and the kids it seemed for hours. Not a side many people got to see but I'll never forget it. Landry may or may not do this but remember he is just a kid himself. Let him grow up a little and I think in time he'll come around.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'll tell you one thing that I'll never ever forget about ST. I go out to Ashburn every training camp. Only about a 20 min drive from my house. ST dissed the reporters but he'd sit there after practice and sign every single autograph request. He'd sit there and sign and take pictures with the fans and the kids it seemed for hours. Not a side many people got to see but I'll never forget it. Landry may or may not do this but remember he is just a kid himself. Let him grow up a little and I think in time he'll come around.

Not a side heavily touted by the media either.......shame

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

LOL!!! I've never been into the autograph thing. I just don't understand it. As long as Landry plays like he did against Seattle I really don't care if he blows off autograph signings.

Here's what I don't get. The attitude that "I don't collect autographs, ergo everyone that collects autographs is incomprehensible to me." The point that everyone has made here, is just that if you don't want to sign then don't say you will. If you make a commitment then follow through. That is not really a difficult concept, I think its just being a decent person. Clearly no one is saying, Landry didn't show to the signing he should get cut, the point is just that if you make a commitment in life you should follow through.

I also don't think that getting an autograph on a piece of paper or photograph makes a whole lot of sense, but getting some equipment signed (i.e. authentic jersey or Proline helmet) makes a great display and conversation piece. I wouldn't think that would be such an odd thing for a sports fan to understand. For instance, I love my Chris Cooley Proline Revolution helmet and I bet if I were to offer it to you you wouldn't mind having it either ... come on. http://www.redskinswarpath.com/redsk...ley+revolution

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's not really my thing but it means a lot to a lot of people, especially kids. When I was a kid I used to love going with my brother and dad to Woodward and Lothrop's and getting autographs from guys like Mosely, Theismann, Riggins, Joe Washington. As I've gotten older and because of the work I do, I prefer a handshake and a few minutes of conversation.

But LaRon hasn't shown to be reliable anywhere but on the field. Ultimately, I suppose that's all that should matter.

I was really joking about men getting other men's autographs. Its really quite normal for another guy to follow another guy around until he signs his name to something. I was at Bass Proshop in December and there sat Mosley so I walked up and got his autograph for my kid of course. I did not have to wait in line so that does not qualify as a wierd thing to do. Now if I waited in line for over five minutes thats when it starts getting wierd.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

There's something weird about a guy wanting another guy's signature.

LOL!!!! I agree it is weird. I determined this at a young age. My best friend's dad was big into baseball cards and autographs. So we go to this show one day and he is like saying "Hi Mr. Elway" or "Mr. Boggs" ETC...

So I am thinking my buddies dad is 45 years old and these guys are a bunch of kids (at the time), seems weird he is calling them Mr.

I like sports and root for my team and their players but I have never been awe struck to want anything from them other then WINS!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Here's what I don't get. The attitude that "I don't collect autographs, ergo everyone that collects autographs is incomprehensible to me." The point that everyone has made here, is just that if you don't want to sign then don't say you will. If you make a commitment then follow through. That is not really a difficult concept, I think its just being a decent person. Clearly no one is saying, Landry didn't show to the signing he should get cut, the point is just that if you make a commitment in life you should follow through.

I also don't think that getting an autograph on a piece of paper or photograph makes a whole lot of sense, but getting some equipment signed (i.e. authentic jersey or Proline helmet) makes a great display and conversation piece. I wouldn't think that would be such an odd thing for a sports fan to understand. For instance, I love my Chris Cooley Proline Revolution helmet and I bet if I were to offer it to you you wouldn't mind having it either ... come on. http://www.redskinswarpath.com/redsk...ley+revolution

I with you 100%. Landry SHOULD NOT blow off the fans. But as I said he's just a kid himself and I'm sure it's something he'll regret when he's older. I'm not making excuses for him but how old is the guy 23 or 24? He's probably enjoying his 1st off season as a pro, he's got $ in his pocket and the last thing he probably wants to do is sign autographs.

That's a nice helmet and it you'd offer it to me I'd take it in a hearbeat. Would I pay $100 for it? No. I have a ton of Skins stuff that isn't signed. My favorite is an old Sonny Jurgenson picture of him in the pocket throwing a pass. It just a great photo but I've never felt the need to go and try to get him to sign it. I understand why people like signitures on jersey's, pics and so on but it's just not my thing.

[porculator]

I was at the show, didn't try to get LaRon because I'd rather spend money on players that have accomplished something (for instance Hall of Famers Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes were $15 less than Landry, Earnest Byner and Monte Coleman were half his price)

It was funny, as I was leaving, I commented to my girlfriend that there was actually another young guy there that dragged his girlfriend there (as opposed to the average 300 pound card dealer with a zubaz hat and fupa) and it turned out to be Chris Cooley and his hot girlfriend/wife/whatever she is just walking around checking out all the booths.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mredskins

LOL!!!! I agree it is weird. I determined this at a young age. My best friend's dad was big into baseball cards and autographs. So we go to this show one day and he is like saying "Hi Mr. Elway" or "Mr. Boggs" ETC...

So I am thinking my buddies dad is 45 years old and these guys are a bunch of kids (at the time), seems weird he is calling them Mr.

I like sports and root for my team and their players but I have never been awe struck to want anything from them other then WINS!

Well over the past 10 years or so autographs have been easier to get than wins. So did that guys dad talk about how cool it was to get the person autograph and just go on and on about untill it kind of got scarry.

[celts32]

It doesn't look very good, but unless your one of the ones who waited for him then i am guessing your not going to be bothered by it. Pesronally I can't figure out why anyone would pay for Laron landry's autograph anyway...shouldn't he accomplish something before there is a market for his autograph?

[killromo]

I went to the first PSGameGear signing with laron. Unlike some of you guys I think it is cool to have a helmet signed by a player. I have a Sammy Baugh auto'd helmet that will be around much longer than he is unfortunately. It is a link to the heroes of the past even after they are long gone. Any way Laron didn't show and basically wasted a day of mine as I traveled a considerable amount of time and stood in line only to stand in line more so i could return the prepaid autograph tickets when he did not show. I just wanted a personalized helmet for my brother's 30th b-day since Laron is # 30. I wanted "the dirty 30" on it. But he stood me and a bunch of other fans up who are not fat collector types. Anyway like everyone else has said don't sign up for this shit if you are not going to show up Laron. Laron was quickly becoming my favorite Redskin and now I think he is a pompous asshole because of his inability to show up to be paid thousands of dollars for 2 hours of work with the fans.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by killromo

I went to the first PSGameGear signing with laron. Unlike some of you guys I think it is cool to have a helmet signed by a player. I have a Sammy Baugh auto'd helmet that will be around much longer than he is unfortunately. It is a link to the heroes of the past even after they are long gone. Any way Laron didn't show and basically wasted a day of mine as I traveled a considerable amount of time and stood in line only to stand in line more so i could return the prepaid autograph tickets when he did not show. I just wanted a personalized helmet for my brother's 30th b-day since Laron is # 30. I wanted "the dirty 30" on it. But he stood me and a bunch of other fans up who are not fat collector types. Anyway like everyone else has said don't sign up for this shit if you are not going to show up Laron. Laron was quickly becoming my favorite Redskin and now I think he is a pompous asshole because of his inability to show up to be paid thousands of dollars for 2 hours of work with the fans.

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