The 'Skins biggest cause for concern right now?

illdefined · 08-16-2004, 10:05 AM

Joe Gibbs and i agree with you B&7

irish · 08-16-2004, 10:14 AM

It's just the preseason so its not time to worry yet. This is typical Gibbs, when he won his last super bowl he went 0-4 in the preseason. give it time.

SKINSnCANES · 08-16-2004, 10:43 AM

I picked poor QB play. If we cant get simple plays right they arent going to respond better to calling audibles and sending guys in motion all the time. gibbs runs a complex offense, and will do a lot of what Payton Manning is so good at. Plus, its more of a concern becuase we dotn know who our starter is. If we knew then it wouldnt be as big of a deal and can say its just preseason, but these guys are out there trying to win a job, and if this is all they are brining to the table its not a good sign. Its still early but someone needs to step up and act like a leader on that offense.

RedskinPete · 08-16-2004, 10:59 AM

O line, O line, O line, O line, O line!!!!! That's for all five of them! It's the same old story about this group!

illdefined · 08-16-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

O line, O line, O line, O line, O line!!!!! That's for all five of them! It's the same old story about this group!

it's true. man, never thought this year's Dline would be outperforming the Oline! even with our man Jansen out (sniff). go figure. c'mon Buges...

BrunellFan · 08-16-2004, 12:14 PM

Only the second game of the preseason... we will know by September whether there is any real cause for concern...

RedskinRat · 08-16-2004, 12:31 PM

I see a lot of players pulling up rather than going all out, that has to be due to the preseason.

crlesh · 08-16-2004, 01:13 PM

Whether it's for the good, bad, or indifferent, I'm willing to bet that the Redskins team we see on September 12 will not resemble the team we will have seen throughout the preseason. Come the regular season in every NFL city, the scrubs are gone, the position battles are decided, and the A-gameplan is pulled out. When I watch these preseason games, I don't hoot or holler or get upset - the games that count haven't even started.

huntz · 08-16-2004, 01:31 PM

Ramsey is my concern. Fumbles and poor decisions.

backrow · 08-16-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

didnt know what to choose...

- poor QB play hurts the team's morale as a whole
- offensive line/running game

but my biggest concern is INJURIES

- LavColes' big toe throughout the whole season, will NEVER be 100%!
- Thomas and Barrow are old men w/ chronic,nagging and very present knee injuries
- Sean Springs has been delicate in his years playing
- DIRTBAG #1

Could not see Game #2. Cable out.
Game #1, inconclusive.

JWsleep · 08-16-2004, 02:28 PM

O-line. This is the key to all of the things Gibbs does on offense. They're not playing badly, especially given the Jansen thing, but they've got to be good if we've got a shot at the playoffs this year. So they are the biggest concern. But given the presence of Joe Bugel and Joe Gibbs, I am not worried.

As for the QB play, when we have a proper running game and a solid o-line, both Ramsey and Brunell will be fine. But the star of this offense will be Clinton Portis.

SkinsRock · 08-16-2004, 05:19 PM

I said poor QB play, but I think it will come around....I almost voted for "it's just preseason". As sloppy as it's been, consider that they have kept it pretty much even for both games....against a good team with a veteran coaching staff that's been there for years, and the NFC champs. Other supposedly good or great teams are being blown out (i.e. Dallas, Philly, etc).
I am concerned about the QB's, but not so much that I'm worried. Brunell is rusty from not playing most of last year, and we all knew that it might take some time for Ramsey to get the "Spurrier-isms" out of his system.
As for the O-line and the running game, it seems like they are just starting to get into a rhythm when they are done. Give them more time in the game, and they will get it together.

wordsmithgk · 08-16-2004, 06:50 PM

I think it is still too early to tell. The inconsistent qb play does concern me more than the running game because with Rock Cartwright getting most of the carries I don't think you can access that fairly; he just isn't an impressive runner. If Betts was available I think we would get a more accurate accounting of the running game because Gibbs isn't going to run Portis much in the preseason. Ramsey looks to me like he is playing scared--maybe that is a holdover from getting hit so much last season, but he seems to be playing his way out of starting.

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Offensive line still coming together	10	14.49%
Anemic running game	10	14.49%
Nothing, it's the preseason	23	33.33%
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08-16-2004, 10:43 AM	#18
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	I picked poor QB play. If we cant get simple plays right they arent going to respond better to calling audibles and sending guys in motion all the time. gibbs runs a complex offense, and will do a lot of what Payton Manning is so good at. Plus, its more of a concern becuase we dotn know who our starter is. If we knew then it wouldnt be as big of a deal and can say its just preseason, but these guys are out there trying to win a job, and if this is all they are brining to the table its not a good sign. Its still early but someone needs to step up and act like a leader on that offense. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-16-2004, 12:14 PM	#21
BrunellFan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 334	Only the second game of the preseason... we will know by September whether there is any real cause for concern... __________________ RIP Mark

08-16-2004, 02:28 PM	#26
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	O-line. This is the key to all of the things Gibbs does on offense. They're not playing badly, especially given the Jansen thing, but they've got to be good if we've got a shot at the playoffs this year. So they are the biggest concern. But given the presence of Joe Bugel and Joe Gibbs, I am not worried. As for the QB play, when we have a proper running game and a solid o-line, both Ramsey and Brunell will be fine. But the star of this offense will be Clinton Portis. __________________ Hail from Houston!

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08-16-2004, 10:05 AM	#16
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Joe Gibbs and i agree with you B&7

08-16-2004, 10:14 AM	#17
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	It's just the preseason so its not time to worry yet. This is typical Gibbs, when he won his last super bowl he went 0-4 in the preseason. give it time.

08-16-2004, 10:59 AM	#19
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	O line, O line, O line, O line, O line!!!!! That's for all five of them! It's the same old story about this group!

08-16-2004, 12:31 PM	#22
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	I see a lot of players pulling up rather than going all out, that has to be due to the preseason.

08-16-2004, 01:13 PM	#23
crlesh Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Age: 49 Posts: 142	Whether it's for the good, bad, or indifferent, I'm willing to bet that the Redskins team we see on September 12 will not resemble the team we will have seen throughout the preseason. Come the regular season in every NFL city, the scrubs are gone, the position battles are decided, and the A-gameplan is pulled out. When I watch these preseason games, I don't hoot or holler or get upset - the games that count haven't even started.

08-16-2004, 01:31 PM	#24
huntz Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 68 Posts: 311	Ramsey is my concern. Fumbles and poor decisions.

08-16-2004, 05:19 PM	#27
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	I said poor QB play, but I think it will come around....I almost voted for "it's just preseason". As sloppy as it's been, consider that they have kept it pretty much even for both games....against a good team with a veteran coaching staff that's been there for years, and the NFC champs. Other supposedly good or great teams are being blown out (i.e. Dallas, Philly, etc). I am concerned about the QB's, but not so much that I'm worried. Brunell is rusty from not playing most of last year, and we all knew that it might take some time for Ramsey to get the "Spurrier-isms" out of his system. As for the O-line and the running game, it seems like they are just starting to get into a rhythm when they are done. Give them more time in the game, and they will get it together.

08-16-2004, 06:50 PM	#28
wordsmithgk Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Raleigh NC Age: 62 Posts: 159	I think it is still too early to tell. The inconsistent qb play does concern me more than the running game because with Rock Cartwright getting most of the carries I don't think you can access that fairly; he just isn't an impressive runner. If Betts was available I think we would get a more accurate accounting of the running game because Gibbs isn't going to run Portis much in the preseason. Ramsey looks to me like he is playing scared--maybe that is a holdover from getting hit so much last season, but he seems to be playing his way out of starting.

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