Props to the coaching staff:

[skinsnut]

MAJOR PROPS for Coaches!!

The best indicator of being aggressive was the 4th and 2 when we PASSED the BALL!!!

That is AWESOME!! and AGRESSIVE.
We also went for a 4th and 1 that we missed in the first half.

I really think this is more of a Gibbs confidence booster win in Campbell than anything....It cannot be overstated....Gibbs aggressiveness is directly correlated to his confidence in his QB.

Look at the SB teams....they though he was Don Coryell JR....look at him with Brunell......conservative passing WR screens and 3 yard passes and only threw deep when desperate.

Wake up folks!!!
The skins have their first potential (not this yr) Pro bowl QB since Brad Johnson and before that was Rypien!

CAMPBELL IS BECOMMING SOLID!!!!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

MAJOR PROPS for Coaches!!

The best indicator of being aggressive was the 4th and 2 when we PASSED the BALL!!!

That is AWESOME!! and AGRESSIVE.
We also went for a 4th and 1 that we missed in the first half.

I really think this is more of a Gibbs confidence booster win in Campbell than anything....It cannot be overstated....Gibbs aggressiveness is directly correlated to his confidence in his QB.

Look at the SB teams....they though he was Don Coryell JR....look at him with Brunell......conservative passing WR screens and 3 yard passes and only threw deep when desperate.

Wake up folks!!!
The skins have their first potential (not this yr) Pro bowl QB since Brad Johnson and before that was Rypien!

CAMPBELL IS BECOMMING SOLID!!!!

I agree with you.
Campbell really has a shot at being the best Skins QB since Joey T. (I hope he's no rypien, he wasn't very good, and Johnson wasn't around long enough, but I get the point)

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree,but there shouldnt be any crow eating,the playcalling was brilliant today and continued to stay aggressive throughout the game,I cant say that about the last game,but lets not get into that again.Once again,thought todays playcalling was great
Portis looked like the old Portis,his moves and cuts today I thought were the best I've seen of him in a while
Jason C as well looked great,23-29 great job Jason
The other wr's stepped up,Keenan with 2 big catches and even LLoyd had a catch
Thrashs punt return was huge
Defense was spectacular,Andre carter looked like a beast
it was just a great all around game

I'm a little worried about CP, I thougt early on he looked tentative, but maybe he was just being patient. Late in the game on those sweeps he was patient & got some nice gains.

What worries me is that he's had a lapse of attention the past 2 weeks. last week it was the fumbled handoff, this week the direct snap. Don't know whose fault they were, but could've been his. Then of course the fumble inside the 10.

Hopefully these are just a couple bad plays that any player will have in a season.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm a little worried about CP, I thougt early on he looked tentative, but maybe he was just being patient. Late in the game on those sweeps he was patient & got some nice gains.

What worries me is that he's had a lapse of attention the past 2 weeks. last week it was the fumbled handoff, this week the direct snap. Don't know whose fault they were, but could've been his. Then of course the fumble inside the 10.

Hopefully these are just a couple bad plays that any player will have in a season.

After the game, Rabach said the direct snap was his fault, not Portis'. He didn't specify but said the snap was not intended for Portis

[MTK]

I really didn't see anything drastically different from the Giants game, the key today was we made some big plays, kept drives going, and converted 3rd downs. This play calling crap is so overrated.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really didn't see anything drastically different from the Giants game, the key today was we made some big plays, kept drives going, and converted 3rd downs. This play calling crap is so overrated.

WOW. I guess I'm not surprised that at least one person saw a totally different game than the rest of us.
That was night and day different.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

WOW. I guess I'm not surprised that at least one person saw a totally different game than the rest of us.
That was night and day different.

Ok how so??

We had the usual game plan today, pound the rock and take some deep shots.

How was today anything different than what we've been doing all along??

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

WOW. I guess I'm not surprised that at least one person saw a totally different game than the rest of us.
That was night and day different.

I didn't think playcalling was that dramatically different either, but who wants another week (or even day) of the Execution vs. Playcalling debate? Both played a role in their own small way,

But as I alluded to in another post, don't overlook the difference in the defense from last game (2nd half) to this one).

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I didn't think playcalling was that dramatically different either, but who wants another week (or even day) of the Execution vs. Playcalling debate? Both played a role in their own small way,

But as I alluded to in another post, don't overlook the difference in the defense from last game (2nd half) to this one).

I just made a post in the "thorough asswoopin" thread about how different it was.

I understand about the debate...mine was never about execution vs playcalling. It's conservative playcalling vs aggressive play calling. We were aggressive and we kicked ass.

20 passing plays in the 3rd and 4th quarter, 20 rushes in the 3rd and 4th quarter. (keep in mind we did 5 straight rushes with 6 minutes left in the 4th trying to run out the clock on our last drive. Take that away and it's 20 passes to 15 rushes...that's HUGE! And we all know how bad it was in the second half vs the Giants. It's pretty obvious the playcalling went from conservative to aggressive.)

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ok how so??

We had the usual game plan today, pound the rock and take some deep shots.

How was today anything different than what we've been doing all along??

Please see asswhoopin thread and my last post here.

(BTW- no one complained about 1st half play calling vs the Giants...it was second half play calling, and there was most certainly no deep shots...nor any good "pounding of the rock".)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ok how so??

We had the usual game plan today, pound the rock and take some deep shots.

How was today anything different than what we've been doing all along??

I would say the playcalling was a lot more creative today. We saw CP lining up behind Rabach on a few occasions and running sweeps. We saw Sellers getting the ball downfield. We saw more counters in the running game. We saw CP lining up at fullback and Sellers at halfback and then motioning Portis from the fullback position. We saw more slants, especially the one on 4th down that kept a drive alive. I don't know if I've seen any of this stuff til today. And it sure kept Det. off balance

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really didn't see anything drastically different from the Giants game, the key today was we made some big plays, kept drives going, and converted 3rd downs. This play calling crap is so overrated.

Yeah, I really agree.

I think this win goes as credit almost entirely to the players, who made allmost no mistakes.

Our D looked great, shows the importance of getting presuse on the QB when you have a pretty good secondary.

JC looked pretty good and was mistake free.

But our offense only put up 25 points, which isnt that great vs. the Lions D imo

I think JC's preformance is earning a lot more trust from everyone around him and hopefully the coaching staff will let him air it out one day, or maybe theyll be forced to.

awsome win though

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I just made a post in the "thorough asswoopin" thread about how different it was.

I understand about the debate...mine was never about execution vs playcalling. It's conservative playcalling vs aggressive play calling. We were aggressive and we kicked ass.

20 passing plays in the 3rd and 4th quarter, 20 rushes in the 3rd and 4th quarter. (keep in mind we did 5 straight rushes with 6 minutes left in the 4th trying to run out the clock on our last drive. Take that away and it's 20 passes to 15 rushes...that's HUGE! And we all know how bad it was in the second half vs the Giants. It's pretty obvious the playcalling went from conservative to aggressive.)

We didn't get the opportunity to have that many plays in the 2nd half against the Giants though. That said, we still attempted (key word-attempted) several passes

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would say the playcalling was a lot more creative today. We saw CP lining up behind Rabach on a few occasions and running sweeps. We saw Sellers getting the ball downfield. We saw more counters in the running game. We saw CP lining up at fullback and Sellers at halfback and then motioning Portis from the fullback position. We saw more slants, especially the one on 4th down that kept a drive alive. I don't know if I've seen any of this stuff til today. And it sure kept Det. off balance

On that first snap to CP, Rabach said that was a botched snap and never actually intended for Portis

I think we've gradually see the Redskins try different things, as Campbell has grown more comfortable. Nothing drastic, but a gradual growth. I wonder though if some of the reasoning behind today's "trick" formations and plays was to mask the absence of Moss today? Would they have been more direct in their approach with Moss in, and even ARE in the 2nd half?

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really didn't see anything drastically different from the Giants game, the key today was we made some big plays, kept drives going, and converted 3rd downs. This play calling crap is so overrated.

In many ways I agree with you, Matty. We won the game with balance and ball control on offense, and great D. We absolutely CRUSHED them in TOP, and that is THE hallmark of Joe Gibbs football. But for sure, the plays that Saunders used to achieve this success were more varied. More slants, awesome use of Sellars, and better distribution in the passing game (by necessity, no doubt, but still, well done and lacking before this).

One big difference, which I give MAJOR props to Gibbs and Saunders: the red zone offense. Beautiful roll outs by Jason, letting the kid improvise and make plays, and HANDING THE BALL TO BIG MIKE! To all who were upset about the playcalling at the end of the gints game, guess what. So were Gibbs and Saunders. And they made adjustments. Very nicely done.


It goes without saying that that was one of the best defensive games, from both a planning and execution standpoint, that we've seen from Coach Williams. Pressure with a 4 man front! Hard hitting pass defense! Safeties! INTs for scores! Wow. Gameball to the D, all around.

PS Good specials, and MAN what a huge play by Cartwright. Maybe not game-saving, but close.