Theismann made a great point during MNF.

[skinsfan69]

My point is that when you get against GOOD NFL DEFENSES you can't come in and run it down everyone's throat. It just does not work! It sure didn't work against Tampa in the playoffs did it? Or against Seattle! And the hell with motion. Motion is a bunch of bullshit. Do the Colts run motion???? No. Never. They never run any motion. It's always the same thing. Harrison on the right and Wayne on the left. Dungy said that they have been running the same plays for 7 FRICKIN YEARS! How about execution!!!! How about production???? I almost don't even want to turn on the TV Sunday after watching the Pats and the Colts over the weekend. Brunell is so old and tired. Plus Romo carved up Carolina in Carolina! What in the hell is Gibbs waiting for?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

You're kind of contradicting yourself there. If it's all about execution, then why CAN'T you run it down someone's throat?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

running the football = winning the time of possesion, which in turn = keeping the defense off the field. sounds like a winning formula to me

DMEK you are right. Here is a clue we don't have fucking Tom Brady! So we can not run our offense like the Pats.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by SkinsFan89

The skins offense is painful to watch on sunday's. Nothing makes me more mad than to see mark brunell throw a 5 yard dink on 3 and 15. And how about taking a shot down field on a first down or second and short. I mean what was the point of bringing in antwaan randle el or brandon lloyd if we're not going to use them to their potential? I'm not expecting big things from the redskins this year and nobody else should either. But I do trust in the almighty joe gibbs to get it together between now and the start of the 2007 season.

Welcome 89!

You are right! What was the point if we are not using them to their potential?

Only one player can trigger that potential in his fellow players.

[61cad]

Originally Posted by dmek25

running the football = winning the time of possesion, which in turn = keeping the defense off the field. sounds like a winning formula to me

The Skins defense can not keep itself off the field. The only way this team is going to win is to out score the opponent.

Loose the ball control , Joe Gibbs offense and open this baby up or this team goes 2 and 14.

[SmootSmack]

You know what's interesting and I don't think has been pointed out here is how many quick, short passes the Pats throw. They're not launching it ever other play. It's a lot of screens and dump offs

[VTSkins897]

pats coaching > skins coaching

it starts there but additionally...

pats QB > skins QBs

[The Zimmermans]

Skins have such trouble dealing with their own schemes that they don't have time to identify anyone else's. They are never prepared for the opponent. The halftime adjustments have been miserable as well. Maybe they have TOO MANY coaches in power.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Anyone watch the Pats last night? Joe T. made a great point. He said the Pats offense doesn't care about balance. They care about production and points. Plus I don't think I saw one false start or any penalties on the Pats 0-line on the road with crowd noise. Unlike the Skins line they are so disiplined. Brady is pointing out blitzers and they execute. Plus who are the WR's? Gabriel, Caldwell, Jackson and T. Brown? Give me a break! I know the TE is a stud but please. Why is it that the Skins always say that they must run to win? You bring in two new WR's w/ S. Moss and Cooley and you want to be a running team? Has anyone told Gibbs for the most part it's a passing league now???? How about you attack the weakness of your opponent? Does the Skins offense ever do this? We saw it with Indy. They didn't even bother messing around with Bailey. They just killed the other corner. Does the Skins offense ever attack? It always seems they come out and try and ram it down everyone's throat. Sometimes it's just painful to watch. Not smart offense in today's NFL! Just my .02.

Agreed. I have posted about this else where. Gibbs I was about mismatches and adjustment first, spreading it out came second.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If the Skins running game struggles Brunell will throw a 5 yard pass when it's 3and 10. Yes Brady is MUCH better than Brunell but when do we ever see the Skins offense attack a defense? Come out with empty sets and pass the ball over 5 yards? Pass to set up the run? Never never never. This week against Dallas they will come out and run run run and you will see Dallas crowd the line of scrimmage. It's like the offense has no strategy or game plan. It's always run run run. Plus the offesne has no audibles. Shocking for an NFL offense to not have the ablility to change the play. I played high school football and our offense had audibles!

Huge point. We have no audibles at the line. Gibbs I didnt let just any QB do that but Brunell is experienced enough to do it.

We can fix our problems. Its in our reach. The question is will they do it.
I dont think they need to change Mark as much as they need to do these other things and most of it seems to me to be coming from the coaches.

Players at correct possition
Play called
Giving the QB to right to change the play.
Game planning.. You dont run on Indi to the corners, they are small and fast, you run it down the middle.

We have the talent. Lets see if the coaches can come up with the right decission and modivations.

[offiss]

Here's the problem, we all have been watching Brunell for so long we forgot what it's like to have a real QB on the field, and so we continue to try and figure out what the problem is other than Brunell, why? Because we all know we are stuck with him, every offensive problem we have could be attributed to the QB, a QB can make a team one dimensional in a heartbeat. Brunell was never a genious a QB, and now at 36 years old we want him to learn a new offense with a different philosophy than he's ever had, and to learn a 700 page play book, Brunell is lucky if could memorize 30 plays. He has no ability how to scan a field pre snap and know where the week spot in the defense will be on that particular play. Take a good look at Lloyd our last game he was fuming has anyone heard why? I have a pretty good idea why, our WR's are running thier a**'s off and Brunell could care less he's just dumping the ball off without giving the a second or third option a look.

I am not saying that this offense will turn upside down if and when Campbell ever gets a chance because he is a highly unproven player, but something has to give and I think it's about to, Gibbs is close to having no choice but to make the switch, unfortunatly the season will be over by the time he does, he acts as if after Brunells play that benching him is giving up on the season, when in actuallity it's the complete opposite regardless of the results, proven loser, against unproven ????

[offiss]

It didn't take minnesota long to send a message to Brad Johnson, Childress is already thinking about making a move at QB, Johnson has remotly been near as bad as Brunell.

Kind of ironic, the monday night game saw both backup QB's, I really had to laugh at that considering our sorry state of affairs with Brunell, Gibbs acts as if Campbell gets on that field the world will come to an end, I said it before and I will say it again it almost looks like to me Gibbs is scared that someone will step in and outplay his beloved Brunell and he will have no choice but to bench him.

[SmootSmack]

So you think that Gibbs couldn't care less about the organization he's invested so much time and effort into, that he doesn't want to help restore to the greatness it once had due in large part to Gibbs because he has some sort of man-crush on Brunell?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

So you think that Gibbs couldn't care less about the organization he's invested so much time and effort into, that he doesn't want to help restore to the greatness it once had due in large part to Gibbs because he has some sort of man-crush on Brunell?

No, what I am saying is he wants to do it his way and that is with Brunell.

Lets face it he was the only one in the NFL who wanted the guy at least as a starter, and he was the only one who was going to give anything up to get him, let alone 43 mil and a 3rd round pick, so in the eye's of every personel man out there he looks like a baffone, thier all saying I told you so, and he's trying to prove them wrong, which comes down to his inability to admit he royally screwed up with the Brunell signing.

Take a good look at Brunell can anyone say with a straight face he was a good signing? Let alone a horid signing?

If Brunell was playing for the Boy's the last 3 years we would still be laughing at how dumb they are, but because it's us and a Gibbs move, that makes it all right.

The guy is a joke at QB, how many Skins games does Aikmen have to cover do we have to hear him breakdown the QB play and question the decision making of Brunell along with his inability of arm strength to hit a reciever downfield, yes Brunell can throw the ball deep but he has to winde up and put a lot of air under it he cannot snap off a throw and get the ball 40 yards downfield. But until Brunell is removed from the equation everyone will continue to believe that there is no way Gibbs could be wrong, or stubborn, or human.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

No, what I am saying is he wants to do it his way and that is with Brunell.

Lets face it he was the only one in the NFL who wanted the guy at least as a starter, and he was the only one who was going to give anything up to get him, let alone 43 mil and a 3rd round pick, so in the eye's of every personel man out there he looks like a baffone, thier all saying I told you so, and he's trying to prove them wrong, which comes down to his inability to admit he royally screwed up with the Brunell signing.

Take a good look at Brunell can anyone say with a straight face he was a good signing? Let alone a horid signing?

Signing Mark Brunell isn't like signing a Brett Farve or a Joe Montana, but to assume it was a "horrid" signing is blowing things well out of proportion. Mark hasn't been a bad QB. He hasn't been the playmaker we have all wanted, but he has played smart football overall. You always want to have a good veteran QB playing on the field in front of your younger QBs. When Campbell finally makes his debut, he will be a much better QB because of it.