NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I should have been more clear. "Later in the draft" i meant the 31st pick for the DL. something in the works, Springs being dealt pick or player, Betts, Portis being dealt for picks. A lot of rumors fly about 1 of our RB's getting dealt on draft day. Or, it could just be one of those players you just can't pass up on, for basically nothing. WE ARE GETTING A 26 YEAR OLD STUD, FOR NOTHING! WE STILL GET TO KEEP A 1st ROUND PICK. I just can't see whats wrong with that. We are not losing picks, we are gaining a stud, and still have a pick to take a lineman. seems like people think we are giving up 2nd and 3rd round picks. we still have a pick in the 1st round. not the 6th, but still the 1st round.

This point has been written here yet again, even after I remember shooting it down. This is what you get for repeating a dumb point: you sir, are a moron. We're not getting him for nothing. You do realize the difference in talent between the guys available at 6 and the guys available at 31?

Not to mention what we could get in a trade by moving down from 6 in exchange for picks. If I were a mod, I'd ban you for being retarded.

[MTK]

Note to self: scratch Schneed off the potential mod list.

[The Zimmermans]

The redskins franchise needs to take a few finance classes. Sell high, buy low. They do the absolute opposite. Snyder needs to go back to Finance 101. If this goes through, two seasons from now Lance Briggs will be worth maybe a 2nd round draft pick, and whoever goes 6th will probably be the mvp of the league. Id rather go after calvin johnson than lance briggs.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Note to self: scratch Schneed off the potential mod list.

Damn!

Now I have to begin proving myself all over again.

Fine, no ban. But if I were a mod I'd summon PWNED via the bat-PWNED signal.

[724Skinsfan]

Snyder aces Finance 101, easily. He doesn't do so well in Management 101, particularly in regards to chapter of Team Building.

[The Zimmermans]

I feel like his ego overtakes his reason and he makes irrational decisions that go against everything someone would learn in school when it comes to managing the redskins. Cause that's what he is, an owner/manager.

[FRPLG]

Can we cease with the "and we keep a first round pick" BS?

Yes it is technically a 1st round pick but it is no more valuable because it has a special name like "1st round pick". It is a far worse draft pick period than the 6. The fact that it remains in the 1st round shouldn't mean it is infinitely more valuable than say the 1st pick in the 2nd round, which by the way happens to be ONE PICK LATER. I don't care that the pick is in the 1st round. I care that we are taking a 25 spot drop.

[RFKRat]

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;291844Unless Quinn, Thomas, or Johnson do fall, the Bears really don't have a good pick at 6. It may not be worth it for them to make this deal, despite all the value they are getting for Briggs.[/QUOTE]

That's crazy talk. A #6 pick is never a bad thing especially in a very good draft and especially for a guy who many times has publicly said he won't play for Chicago again, unless it's the "I'll sit for 10 games and play 6" ploy. And the Bears won't be coughing up the monster salary he wants. If anything, the Bears have plenty of options with that pick.

Briggs has wanted the spotlight on himself for a long time. He's on a defense surrounded by Pro-Bowlers...if he goes to the Redskins he'll get the chance to see he's everything he thinks he is, or a by-product of that defense up there. Don't get me wrong, he's a very good linebacker...but playing next to guys like Tommie Harris, Urlacher, etc doesn't hurt. If he wants out, fine....and if the Bears can get a #6 pick then that's a steal for them, even giving up the #31 also.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This point has been written here yet again, even after I remember shooting it down. This is what you get for repeating a dumb point: you sir, are a moron. We're not getting him for nothing. You do realize the difference in talent between the guys available at 6 and the guys available at 31?

Not to mention what we could get in a trade by moving down from 6 in exchange for picks. If I were a mod, I'd ban you for being retarded.

seriously, is that needed? you know people are really brave on this f'n site. grow up. calling one a moron is really mature.

if you can read the point I made : franchise player require two first round picks - we are not losing a 1st round pick to aquire a franchised player. This is what I meant. 2nd, we were looking to trade down to aquire more picks. We essentially get to trade down to a late 1st and get a 26 year old LB which is worth a hole hell of a lot more than any 2nd or 3rd round player we would have drafted.

3rd - if you want to continually act like a fool you have every right to do so. But please refrain from calling me or anyone else a moron. that is totally uncalled for and childish. I would expect everyone here can have a civil conversation regarding a potential trade without getting into a pissing match. I would hope a "MOD" would certainly not act that way, and also the other "MODS" take notice of your insults. apology accepted.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This point has been written here yet again, even after I remember shooting it down. This is what you get for repeating a dumb point: you sir, are a moron. We're not getting him for nothing. You do realize the difference in talent between the guys available at 6 and the guys available at 31?

Not to mention what we could get in a trade by moving down from 6 in exchange for picks. If I were a mod, I'd ban you for being retarded.

I agree with your general sentiments regarding the trade, but there's no need to personally attack the guy. Chill.......chill. I hate it when people get into personal attacks, causing threads to go total awry and off into a direction that no one cares about other than the two people involved.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

seriously, is that needed? you know people are really brave on this f'n site. grow up. calling one a moron is really mature.

if you can read the point I made : franchise player require two first round picks - we are not losing a 1st round pick to aquire a franchised player. This is what I meant. 2nd, we were looking to trade down to aquire more picks. We essentially get to trade down to a late 1st and get a 26 year old LB which is worth a hole hell of a lot more than any 2nd or 3rd round player we would have drafted.

3rd - if you want to continually act like a fool you have every right to do so. But please refrain from calling me or anyone else a moron. that is totally uncalled for and childish. I would expect everyone here can have a civil conversation regarding a potential trade without getting into a pissing match. I would hope a "MOD" would certainly not act that way, and also the other "MODS" take notice of your insults. apology accepted.

I tend to agree with you but as he pointed out he did totaly refute your statement and you blew right on past it and didn't seem to even notice. I can understand his frustration. Lots of people do that around here, as well as many other boards.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This point has been written here yet again, even after I remember shooting it down. This is what you get for repeating a dumb point: you sir, are a moron. We're not getting him for nothing. You do realize the difference in talent between the guys available at 6 and the guys available at 31?

Not to mention what we could get in a trade by moving down from 6 in exchange for picks. If I were a mod, I'd ban you for being retarded.

also, that does not always ring true. I believe we have all had discussions regarding players drafted in later rounds that turn out to be great players. So, yes players taken in the top 10 typically are better than the bottom 10, but its not a guarantee. We could get a quality DE or DT with the 31st pick that could be just as good, if not better than the guy drafted 25 picks ahead of him.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

1) its not a cost-minded move
2)we have solid LB depth already
3)if you consider the price "nothing", you're probably retarded

It's a stiff price to pay for any linebacker, much less a potentially overrated one.

yet another immature little ass. are you people seriously that insecure about your man hood that it requires you downgrade yourself to name calling? When does "price" ever matter with this organization? oh, thats right.. Randel El's 30 million, Arch 30million, Lloyds 30 million, were all cost minded?? i forgot

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

if you can read the point I made : franchise player require two first round picks - we are not losing a 1st round pick to aquire a franchised player. This is what I meant. 2nd, we were looking to trade down to aquire more picks. We essentially get to trade down to a late 1st and get a 26 year old LB which is worth a hole hell of a lot more than any 2nd or 3rd round player we would have drafted.

You say we're basically gaining an extra 1st round pick because we are getting a stud linebacker, but that's not what we need right now!
People around here want to trade down our pick so that we can get a defensive lineman, a guard, a safety, maybe a cornerback, maybe a tight end, and maybe another late round receiver. Another linebacker is one of the last positions that we feel like the team needs to fill right now, which means it would basically be a waste to pick/trade for one.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

seriously, is that needed? you know people are really brave on this f'n site. grow up. calling one a moron is really mature.

if you can read the point I made : franchise player require two first round picks - we are not losing a 1st round pick to aquire a franchised player. This is what I meant. 2nd, we were looking to trade down to aquire more picks. We essentially get to trade down to a late 1st and get a 26 year old LB which is worth a hole hell of a lot more than any 2nd or 3rd round player we would have drafted.

3rd - if you want to continually act like a fool you have every right to do so. But please refrain from calling me or anyone else a moron. that is totally uncalled for and childish. I would expect everyone here can have a civil conversation regarding a potential trade without getting into a pissing match. I would hope a "MOD" would certainly not act that way, and also the other "MODS" take notice of your insults. apology accepted.

I'm not sorry, my opinion of you hasn't changed, and I still don't find you to be very intelligent.

I have no problem with your opinion in and of itself. It's fine to state it. But if I address it in a post, and then you repeat yourself again as if you never even read what I said, well that to me isn't very responsible on a board aimed at "discussion for the knowledgeable fan." If you're not addressing my point and you're just repeating yourself, you're not having much of a discussion, are you? You're just blowing hot air onto the boards without listening to the opinions of others.

Now, as for your clarified point, I addressed that one as well earlier in the thread. No franchised player is actually worth 2 first rounders. Just because the CBA says that's the price, that doesn't make the underlying player actually worth that much.