(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)

[SeanTaylor21]

69 local players hopeful to make the Redskins roster were at workouts in Redskins park today, there is a list of them at the bottom of the link, some well known players include: Owen Schmitt, and Erin Henderson.
Local Prospects Get a Look

[Dirtbag59]

Prospects by round in no particular order. Some of the second round picks take a possible trade down into account.

1st - Phillip Merling (DE Clemson), Calias Campbell (DE Miami), Kentwan Balmer (DT UNC), Kenny Phillips (S Miami), Branden Albert (G/T Virginia), Mike Jenkins (CB/S USF), Aquib Talib (CB Kansas), Malcolm Kelly (WR Oklahoma)

2nd - Lawrence Jackson (DE USC), Trevor Laws (DT Notre Dame), Dre Moore (DT Maryland), Chilo Rachel (G USC), Carl Nicks (G/T Nebraska), Justin King (CB Penn State), Reggie Smith (CB/S Oklahoma), Brandon Flowers (CB VT), Quinton Groves (DE/LB Auburn), Tracy Porter (CB Indiana), Mario Maningham (WR Michigan)

3rd - Jordy Nelson (WR KSU), Jerome Simpson (WR Costal Carolina), Roy Schuening (G Oregon State), Tony Hills (G/T Texas), Mike McGlynn (C/G/T Pitt), Charles Godfrey (CB Iowa), Jason Jones (DE Eastern Michigan), Terrell Thomas (CB USC), DeMario Pressly (DT NC State)

[WaldSkins]

Why is everyone so big on drafting a WR number one overall? By the time the draft comes around Chad Johnson value will be so diminished that we can possibly pick him up for a third.

Does everyone really think that we need o-line over help on the dline? We only had 33 sacks as a team last year. we have no dline pressure on the quarterback. I think the first two picks should go on dline. A good dline makes up for a ok secondary: Ala the Giants and our secondary as is, is by far better then that of the Giants.

#1: DE
#2: DT
#3: Johnson
#3: OL


Tell me what you think

[T.O.Killa]

Every time I hear Vinny talking he says he would like to trade our first round pick for more pick. He sujested that he would be willing to trade it for a 2nd and a 3rd.

[That Guy]

king is too high for the 2nd round. derrick harvey should be in your first round, and cromartie, even though both will be gone by 17 :/.

in the third zbikowski and barret (4.3 230lb safety WITH production) and both great choices too. i like a lot of the other guys you mention though.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by That Guy

king is too high for the 2nd round. derrick harvey should be in your first round, and cromartie, even though both will be gone by 17 :/.

in the third zbikowski and barret (4.3 230lb safety WITH production) and both great choices too. i like a lot of the other guys you mention though.

Right now I'm convinced that Harvey won't be there at 21. At this point though our major wild card as to weather we take Merling or Campbell is none other then our good friends the Minnesota Vikings. Theres no question they need a DE with Udeze going through health problems and Erasmus James racking up only 5 career sacks (not to mention coming off an injury). So with that said the question is are they going to become gun shy when it comes to the possiblity of taking a DE in the 1st?

Merling is coming off of a sports hernia and even though he's almost recoverd the fact remains that the injury could do little to ease their concerns the Vikings might have about drafting a DE in the first. And at this point it's definately to early for a team like the Vikings to draft a guy like Campbell. Of course Merling is also condiered a safe pick, and given the Vikings need at the position the chance that they take him is good.

Personally I think the Redskins are debating weather or not to take Merling or Campbell with that first pick, granted both have been considered top 15 talent at one point or another, and I have a feeling that the Front office affliction for Miami players as well as Campbell's connection with the D-Line coach has made the selection of Calias Campbell all that more likely.

As of now my mock draft for the Skins looks like this

1st - Calias Campbell - DE - Miami - Merling is probably a Viking at this point and the Redskins love players from the U. Plus Campbell has the most upside at this point in the draft. Also trade down these days are hard but we can always hope for a QB to make their way up the boards

2nd - Tracey Porter - CB - Indiana - Porter is the best corner at this point in the draft, but I think this spot is going to be between a Corner and Reciever. The Skins would love it if Jordy falls to them in the third but you have to wonder if someones going to take him in the early third. And on top of that Jerome Simpson is projected to be an early third round pick as well. Maningham is also a possiblity here, even though he's a smaller guy, he still has enough talent to contribute should he fall this far in the draft. Flowers is also a possiblity if he falls this far. Of course you can't forget about Andre Caldwell either.

3rd - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State - This would be great if Jordy fell this far in the 3rd round but I have my doubts. Still the Redskins insist that their first four picks will be DL, CB, WR, and OL. It's also possible that the Redskins could draft Jordy with their second round pick, but by doing that they would have to hope for a corner like Terrell Thomas or Chevis Jackson to fall to them in the third, which is risky considering how hard it is to find a quality corner after the 2nd round.

3rd Comp - Tony Hills G/T - Texas- Right now Hills is projected as a 4th rounder but he also might be targeted by the Texans in the 3rd should they not get Branden Albert with the 18th pick. Hills is a great prospect for this coaching staff that could easily develop into a starter within two or three years and end up taking over at LG for the aging Kendell. Ironically I would consider him a poor mans Branden Albert even though he played most of college at LT. If the Skin's can't get Hills then look for them to draft Mike McGlynn out of Pitt.

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Chevis Jackson to fall to them in the third, which is risky considering how hard it is to find a quality corner after the 2nd round.

Chevis Jackson in my mind is not fast enough to be a corner in the NFL, if he can bulk up he could probably make the transition to safety, and be a quality player.

[Dirtbag59]

What do you guys think about the possiblity of the Skins trading up into the early second round to possibly grab a Devin Thomas, Limas Sweed, or Malcolm Kelly? Especially considering that Limas Sweed has a good chance of falling into the early 2nd round.

Or do we reach on a Joe Jurivicious/Kevin Walter type in Jordy Nelson or hope a guy like Jerome Simpson falls to us in the third? Remember the team is probably targeting Tony Hills and Mike McGlynn with that comp selection so lineman lovers fear not. The team will find a quality lineman in the third round

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

What do you guys think about the possiblity of the Skins trading up into the early second round to possibly grab a Devin Thomas, Limas Sweed, or Malcolm Kelly? Especially considering that Limas Sweed has a good chance of falling into the early 2nd round.

Or do we reach on a Joe Jurivicious/Kevin Walter type in Jordy Nelson or hope a guy like Jerome Simpson falls to us in the third? Remember the team is probably targeting Tony Hills and Mike McGlynn with that comp selection so lineman lovers fear not. The team will find a quality lineman in the third round

Avoid Thomas at all costs because he's a guy who couldn't climb his college depth chart for two seasons, then had a really good year in 07 and bolted before he had a chance to be a fluke. That's simply not first day material.

Sweed and Kelly are both good players, but if we were trading up from the 2nd round, the best deal I would offer would be the 2nd, and our 6th rounder. That's only going to move us up a few spots.

I'd rather sit tight at 51 and try to land Manningham, or just pick at a position of greater need if the value isn't good.

[That Guy]

i think campbell at 21 is a terrible value and only a 50/50 shot at even addressing our DL situation. maybe he's a younger phillip daniels, but that's not really what i want :/.

harvey's safer than merling, and the vikes like him more from what i've seen, so he's pretty much a lock to go 17 at the latest, though stranger things have happened.

either way, we're about 4 picks too late to get a high potential stud, and about 4-7 picks too late to have any real chance at a trade down offer (unless someone is SUPER high on a qb and needs to trade back in, but i don't see something obvious for our pick specifically, so that's probably not a great bet for us).

one of the cb's might make it though, albert might make it... both are better values than campbell. I don't really like ANY of the WRs so far, though hardy may be the one most worthy of taking a flyer on... groves is an okay pick, but he's not a DE. maybe he turns into another merriman, and if that's the case... he's better value than campbell, but i don't know him well since it's not a position of need and i like LBs better in the 2nd round. If he's like willis or lawson or merriman or... then he's a good pick. I'll look into it.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i think campbell at 21 is a terrible value and only a 50/50 shot at even addressing our DL situation. maybe he's a younger phillip daniels, but that's not really what i want :/.

harvey's safer than merling, and the vikes like him more from what i've seen, so he's pretty much a lock to go 17 at the latest, though stranger things have happened.

either way, we're about 4 picks too late to get a high potential stud, and about 4-7 picks too late to have any real chance at a trade down offer (unless someone is SUPER high on a qb and needs to trade back in, but i don't see something obvious for our pick specifically, so that's probably not a great bet for us).

one of the cb's might make it though, albert might make it... both are better values than campbell. I don't really like ANY of the WRs so far, though hardy may be the one most worthy of taking a flyer on... groves is an okay pick, but he's not a DE. maybe he turns into another merriman, and if that's the case... he's better value than campbell, but i don't know him well since it's not a position of need and i like LBs better in the 2nd round. If he's like willis or lawson or merriman or... then he's a good pick. I'll look into it.

The thing is that according to Vinny Cerato the front office puts a premnium on guys that the coaching staff has worked with (Fletcher, Smoot, Collins) and since Campbell had his best season with Palimero, the chances are that the front office will very comfortable drafting him. At this point I'm not arguing weather or not Campbell is a good prospect, rather I'm arguing that the chances of the front office taking Campbell on draft day are high. Right now I'd rate it at 70%.

With that said after watching film on Campbell (ie YouTube highlights) I came away impressed. The guy moves very well and seems to make good use of his long arms. He's also pretty good using rip and swim moves as well as redirecting inside when he has to. I also liked how he would lock up against offensive tackles on running plays and ride them until he got to the ball carrier. However the thing that surprised me was how quick and agile he is, which was even more shocking after seeing how stiff he looked during the combine when the defensive lineman were going through drills that tested their lateral movement.

Also Todd McShay said that sports hernias scare teams a lot, though at the same time I heard that Merling would be fully recoverd about a week before the draft. So I wonder, do the Redskins take the safe pick over the guy their familar with from a program they like. On top of that both Mayock and McShay, who spend an awful lot of time talking to team personel have Campbell going in the 1st round which tells me that Campbell is still considered a 1st round pick in many league circles.

The team has also mentioned that they like the depth at corner in the second round and the horde of corners they're bringing in for visits seems to confirm that they like the crop of 2nd round corners. On top of that they've also stated that they don't like the crop of 1st tier recievers and probably won't use a 1st round pick on one. So that leaves DL and OL as possible first round picks, and according to JLC, Blache was promised a D-Lineman early in the draft.

Ironically the selection of the other Campbell at 25 back in 2005 shows that the front office is willing to pull the trigger on guys projected to go in the early second while they're on the clock in the first.

[Skinny Tee]

Since we don't need Chad Johnson and can get a good receiver in the draft my first two selection are going to be:

1. Brandon Albert, G, UVA (Solid lineman)

2. De'cody Fagg, WR, Florida State (This guy will make all of the CJ lovers thank their lucky stars that we didn't trade for him)

[Dirtbag59]

Does anyone recognize the guys at the start of this video

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Anyway I guess I'll take a stab at a Redskins Mock in light of the new information given to us by JLC.

1st - Trade to Falcons for 2-6 and 3-3 (The Skin's might be the lowest bidder for Atlanta to get back into the 1st round so they can take Brian Brohm)

2-6 - Trevor Laws - DT - Notre Dame (Vinny says: "So to add some more pass rush up the middle would be something we'd look at.")

2-21 - Brandon Flowers - CB - Virginia Tech (Heard that his 40 time has him dropping to the late 2nd early 3rd) (Vinny says: "Cornerback is deep, but not at the top of the draft")

3-3 - Duane Brown - T/G - Virginia Tech (Vinny says: "We're looking for a young lineman who can play center-guard or guard-tackle. You want to develop someone.")

3-21 - Owen Schmitt - FB - West Virginia (Vinny says: "A backup fullback to Mike Sellers is also a need because the West Coast offense requires more depth at fullback")

3-33 - Marcus Monk - WR - Arkansas (Vinny says: "Receivers are strong in the second or third round.") (Don't worry I'm not crazy, apparently Monk has been working his way up draft boards lately and at this point I figure that Nelson and Simpson are both gone)

5th - Jamar Adams - S - Michigan
6th - Rudolph Hardie - DE - Howard
7th - Andrew Crummey - C/G - Maryland
7th Comp - Alvin Bowen - OLB - Iowa State
7th Comp - Kyle Wright - QB - Miami

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Since we don't need Chad Johnson and can get a good receiver in the draft my first two selection are going to be:

1. Brandon Albert, G, UVA (Solid lineman)

2. De'cody Fagg, WR, Florida State (This guy will make all of the CJ lovers thank their lucky stars that we didn't trade for him)

You were sober for the first pick, and then hit the pipe before the second one.

You must be related to De'cody, because that the only way that anyone would suggest that he be taken that high.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

You were sober for the first pick, and then hit the pipe before the second one.

You must be related to De'cody, because that the only way that anyone would suggest that he be taken that high.

Actually it was just a goof to get the Chad Johnson lovers riled up. None of them fell for it.


Fagg...(no laughing)...suffered a possible career ending injury catching balls at the combine. It's just a jab saying that lame wide out would be a better acquisition for the Skins than CJ would.