Skins vs Packers post game thread

[scowan]

After watching our team yesterday get totally embarrased by the Packers, I don't care if the Redskins can come back and win the division or not, they are not going to advance anywhere in the playoffs with this defense OR offense. If you have to go play a game at Green Bay or Seattle, you are not winning. Those two teams have the biggest home field advantage I have ever seen.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Besides the drop yesterday, I thought Morgan has been a good player for us.. I mean, we could watch Hankerson drop every other pass?

We could get the same production from Hankerson.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Looks like we're becoming a pass first team, which when your OL stinks (at least the right side) and your QB is gimpy, doesn't exactly bode well.

Talk about getting away from Redskins culture. We used to pound the ball to set up the pass, looks like it may start switching the other way around. Which would be okay, so long as we had a consistently decent pass game, which we don't yet.

Than why play Robert? Kirk is more suited to run this offense. Heck trade Robert for 3 picks use that and the 36mil to replace aging and weak positions -RT,MLB, CB, and draft a Safety and lets do this.

Did I just say that? I just want traditional football b/c Shanny ruined the best QB that ever happened to us. We have a read option OL that is too small to change and a QB unable to run either at the moment. We are caught transitioning and we have an idiot named Haslet who blitzes and blitzes and hides his head when nobody is there to cover. We need to stop the pass. Make teams run on us since our front 7 is our strength, at least scores could be kept lower and pray we cause fumbles.

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The Skins have played two games. They are in a relatively weak division where no team is undefeated. If they must be 0-2, then they are at least fortunate enough to be only one game behind the division leaders. They could turn things around and win the division. Such things happen all the time in the NFL. Like the Redskins' great finish last season, for example.

I think we all want a team that wins outright or is competitive, not depending on the f' ups and misfortune of more talented and better run teams in our division, that haven't ruined their franchise QB in the 1st season.

Originally Posted by mredskins

Morgan's blocking is a asset of his as well.

It also defeats the purpose to be good at blocking when we stop running b/c we are losing by 30 points. He's over paid. Moss blocks, catches, and runs better routes. Morgan was brought in to catch passes. He has shown he is not a possession receiver and the skins offense can't execute passing unless RG is 100% healthy running around risking his neck.

Football has loooooong been played straight up w/ no gimmicks. I don't care that the nfl is a touch league for defenses, this offense is straight out of college and clearly doesn't apply to any future for the skins the way it's been run. We can't go drafting picks for a 1 season miracle QB every year and certainly not take 3 of his best years of away from his game.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Couldn't get Finnegan due to cap issues. Couldn't get any decent OL on the market due to cap issues. Having 36 mil stripped from you is huge. I don't think for a minute those guys are on the team because of that's who we chose. These guys are on the team because that's all we could afford. Polumbus is cheap. Dhall is cheap. Wilson is cheap. Fletcher is the one guy that bewilders me. I'm still stunned they brought him back at his salary KNOWING he was a huge liability on defense. It's not like they could have afford Ellerbe though, not that I even think he's worth 7 mil per season. (he's not)


Now, if you want to make the argument about Josh Morgan and his salary, that's a different story. Dude is NOT worth 6 mil per season. No way, no how.

Can't blame the cap issues on the crappy start. Haven't we done the free agent wheeling and dealing? Been there done that and it's gotten us nothing in return. Well, one playoff win in 05. Sorry.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by scowan

After watching our team yesterday get totally embarrased by the Packers, I don't care if the Redskins can come back and win the division or not, they are not going to advance anywhere in the playoffs with this defense OR offense. If you have to go play a game at Green Bay or Seattle, you are not winning. Those two teams have the biggest home field advantage I have ever seen.

Nobody knows what's going to happen during the rest of the season or in the playoffs. The Skins could actually start to play much better football, as they did last season.

All of the whining and negativity on this board is way out of line in view of how early it is in the season.

[skinsfaninok]

yeah we were 3-6 and people wanted MS Fired then we win 7 in a row and we loved him. Just wait and see after week 5-6 and then if we suck well we suck

[budw38]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Nobody knows what's going to happen during the rest of the season or in the playoffs. The Skins could actually start to play much better football, as they did last season.

All of the whining and negativity on this board is way out of line in view of how early it is in the season.

True , we were 3-6 last year and it turned out ok . As long as RG3 stays healthy , we should be fine on offense .

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We could get the same production from Hankerson.

I agree, but I think it's always good to have depth. He might be making a bit much, but he's performed well when he's on the field.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can't blame the cap issues on the crappy start. Haven't we done the free agent wheeling and dealing? Been there done that and it's gotten us nothing in return. Well, one playoff win in 05. Sorry.

I"m not blaming cap issues on the crappy start. I'm simply telling Gtripp that the guys we have are not here by choice. They are here because we really had no other option due to cap issues.

The salary cap has nothing to do with how we played the first two games.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Besides the drop yesterday, I thought Morgan has been a good player for us.. I mean, we could watch Hankerson drop every other pass?

? didn't Morgan sit out most of last year with knee and hip injury? Hankerson is being himself... light it up in preseason games and is our new 50/50 during the season.

Where was Aldrick Robinson? I might have missed him but didn't hear his name, didn't see on the field, team didn't use him on a go routes unless RG3 was forced to dump off on those plays. Heck even Fred Davis seemed to be a no show. I saw him drop one pass.

[Chico23231]

Ive noticed Mods are quiet? Is there a reason?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ive noticed Mods are quiet? Is there a reason?

with our first 2 performances they are debating on tearing down the site

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Nobody knows what's going to happen during the rest of the season or in the playoffs. The Skins could actually start to play much better football, as they did last season.

All of the whining and negativity on this board is way out of line in view of how early it is in the season.

Yes and NO. Here's were the problem is with most of us... had the Redskins came out and kept the game close and went toe for toe and lost against the Eagles, most of us would be saying no biggie we had no clue what they were going to bring to the table. Had they played the Packers somewhat close like the 49ers did most of us would be sitting her saying ..."well I figured we would lose that game in Green Bay".

However that's not the case. The Redskins came out and actually didn't play at all until late 3rd quarter against the Eagles when the Eagles felt bad and started playing prevent defense. Yes they were tired by that point and up by 30 something points but they took their foot off the pedal. The Packers learned from what the Eagles did. Again the Redskins didn't show up to play and it wasn't until the 3rd quarter that they looked remotely decent but again only after the Packers backed off.

I think if the Skins were competitive most of us would not have a problem with the losing, but they are not even showing up until the second half of two games so far. I almost wish they would scrimmage a college team an hour before the game and ride a bus over and play the actual game. Maybe then they would look a little better after having played a whole half prior to the game starting.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ive noticed Mods are quiet? Is there a reason?

I think that they are staying out of the intense monday morning quarterbacking going on here.

It's that, or they just don't understand that we are suffering from The Curse of Pat White. Every NFL team who has cut Pat White suffered a losing season the next year. Now it is our turn to be doomed.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ive noticed Mods are quiet? Is there a reason?

Me personally, I don't have much to say