Return Of Lavar

[CRT3]

Hey I admitted in the Waren for Coles thread that Warren was not enough value. As far as our draft needs I said a WR then maybe a DE. CB will be needed if we lose Smoot. Do you think that Walt Harris is more then a Nickel back? So the only position on offense that I said need to be changed is WR. I know alot of people say Raymer needs to be changed and that will most likely happen with a strong center draft. But what other positions would you be drafting for?

[CRT3]

In fact Offsis here is my quote on the Warren for Coles trade.

"Warren and a draft pick would be fine as I do not think they could get more then a 3rd for him. He does get preasure on the QB. Had a off year last year due to injuries where he only played 13 games. Othere then that expect about 5 sacks a year. Just a thought."

The thread was started and if you read the 1st line it is just posing a question in no way did I ever state that I thought this would be a great or even good straight up trade. Backing up the facts since this is somthing you always fail to do. Please if you are going to slam me at least have the facts correct.

[BigSKINBauer]

168 I say we can hit 200 easy

[offiss]

Originally Posted by CRT3

Hey I admitted in the Waren for Coles thread that Warren was not enough value. As far as our draft needs I said a WR then maybe a DE. CB will be needed if we lose Smoot. Do you think that Walt Harris is more then a Nickel back? So the only position on offense that I said need to be changed is WR. I know alot of people say Raymer needs to be changed and that will most likely happen with a strong center draft. But what other positions would you be drafting for?

Absolulty, positively, CENTER! I have been saying it from about mid season on, I also said it in another recent thread that the center position is our single biggest need in this draft [or free agency] but that won't be addressed in the first round, our first pick will be one of the big 3 reciever's, I believe Gibb's feel's our reciever's were part of the problem this year for our inability to not throw downfield, I also believe he will be looking for big time speed to do so, that coupled with the fact that William's and Edward's will probably be off the board before we draft lead's me to believe the player will be T. Williamson, I feel that will be the pick regardless of what happen's with Cole's, I also wouldn't be surprised to see us grab another burner at WR if the opportunity present's itself later in the draft.

As for Harris he didn't play 100% last year coming off a knee injury he will be 100% this year I defiently believe he's a starter and a good one at that, couple that with the coaches belief that Wild's is ready to step in as a starter and I would say we are set at CB with or without Smoot.

I wouldn't be worried about a defensive end this draft we did a decent job pressuring the QB this past season and if you are correct about Lavar I don't see a need for a D-end in this draft, adding Lavar will give us one of the most dynamic pass rusher's in the game no sense on using a pick there when we have so many other need's especially on offense.

here's my draft plan

1 WR- Williamson

3 WR- roddy White

4 guard- Chris Kemoeatu, or CJ Brooking's

6 defense and special's

7 O-tackle

Now I believe we will pick up a couple of more pick's between Cole's and Gardner which will translate into C-Chris Spencer, or Ben Wilkerson. I also feel everyone but White will be in our reach where we sit now we would probably have to deal up to get White, at this point I am not sold on Thrash as a #3 I think that's Jacob's spot which will open up a #2 for White eventually that is how I believe it will break down at WR it may not be White but someone will have to seize that spot, I like Jacob's but not sure yet if he'a a true #2, bottom line we need more pick's to make this draft happen, with offensive line and WR's a must that's where our focus has to be we can add some depth on defense in the later round's.

If the Moss deal comes down straight up then scratch off White and pencil in a center with our 3rd rd pick we may use what we recieve for Gardner to move up and assure we get Spencer.


I also wouldn't mind us going after an undersized LB late with great speed and see what William's can do about converting him into a saftey, that would give us 2 player's who really intimidate from the saftey position ALA like what was done with Boulware last year but that would be a late pick at best.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by CRT3

In fact Offsis here is my quote on the Warren for Coles trade.

"Warren and a draft pick would be fine as I do not think they could get more then a 3rd for him. He does get preasure on the QB. Had a off year last year due to injuries where he only played 13 games. Othere then that expect about 5 sacks a year. Just a thought."

The thread was started and if you read the 1st line it is just posing a question in no way did I ever state that I thought this would be a great or even good straight up trade. Backing up the facts since this is somthing you always fail to do. Please if you are going to slam me at least have the facts correct.

So then you didn't propose to draft a DE and a CB with our 1st couple of pick's? Tell me who has the fact's on that one?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by CRT3

In fact Offsis here is my quote on the Warren for Coles trade.

"Warren and a draft pick would be fine as I do not think they could get more then a 3rd for him. He does get preasure on the QB. Had a off year last year due to injuries where he only played 13 games. Othere then that expect about 5 sacks a year. Just a thought."

The thread was started and if you read the 1st line it is just posing a question in no way did I ever state that I thought this would be a great or even good straight up trade. Backing up the facts since this is somthing you always fail to do. Please if you are going to slam me at least have the facts correct.

No you posed the question as if it was a possible realistic trade as if Warren had any realistic value compared to Cole's, then as usual you waited for everyone else to make up your mind for you.

[MTK]

guys, this is getting ridiculous, move on

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by offiss

So then you didn't propose to draft a DE and a CB with our 1st couple of pick's? Tell me who has the fact's on that one?

You have lost me in on this one.

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by offiss

No you posed the question as if it was a possible realistic trade as if Warren had any realistic value compared to Cole's, then as usual you waited for everyone else to make up your mind for you.

No I did not wait for others to make up my mind. I posed a question.

"Anybody think this is interesting? Apparently Clevelands Crennel has decided to allow the 4 year vet, Warren, to seek a trade? Do we need another DT. Seemed to be a major question before last year."

You are just losing me on this one to.