Campbell A Raider

[freddyg12]

I always liked the Raiders, though w/age I don't really follow teams other than the Skins that much other than just watching important games. Since JC is there now & they made some good picks this weekend, I think the raiders may at least be respectable & I'll route for them. We don't play them for another 3 years.

I don't know if JC can win the job there but I'll be routing for him. Actually, they have quite a logjam at qb, it's quite possible that JC gets cut.

[MTK]

I would be pretty surprised if he got cut. JaMarshmallow? Gradkowski? The starting job should be JC's for the taking.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I would be pretty surprised if he got cut. JaMarshmallow? Gradkowski? The starting job should be JC's for the taking.

I'd be a little surprised but if he got cut, but I would be just as surprised if he gets the starting job. I think its Gradkowski's for the taking right now. C. Frye is also on their roster.

Who knows what Al Davis is thinking w/Jamarcus? Most teams would cut him, but Al Davis might try to hold on & hope he comes around.

[44ever]

Campbell has a career 82.3 passer rating, which ranks him 21st amongst active QBs, ahead of Eli Manning, Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton. He had a passer rating of 86.4 during a tumultuous 2009 season, which was 15th in the NFL. I think that's about where he is as a quarterback, dead center average.

Read more: RealGM Football: Oakland - Grading The Deal: Raiders Trade For Jason Campbell

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'd be a little surprised but if he got cut, but I would be just as surprised if he gets the starting job. I think its Gradkowski's for the taking right now. C. Frye is also on their roster.

Who knows what Al Davis is thinking w/Jamarcus? Most teams would cut him, but Al Davis might try to hold on & hope he comes around.

Not sure what people see in Gradkowski, if JC is an average starter, Gradkowski is definitely below average, in fact he really hasn't proven he's a true starter yet. He's got a career QB rating of 65.9, his numbers are very underwhelming to say the least.

Bruce Gradkowski: Career Stats

Plus he's having surgery for a torn pectoral, he should be back from training camp but still, it's a setback.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure what people see in Gradkowski, if JC is an average starter, Gradkowski is definitely below average, in fact he really hasn't proven he's a true starter yet. He's got a career QB rating of 65.9, his numbers are very underwhelming to say the least.

Bruce Gradkowski: Career Stats

Plus he's having surgery for a torn pectoral, he should be back from training camp but still, it's a setback.

Maybe Gradkowski looks good because he comes in for Russell.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

He's doomed. No O-Line, no recievers. It's a QB's dream.

Oakland made some GREAT O-line picks, two guys I wouldn't mind seeing here in Bruce Campbell and Jared Veldheer. Even with two rookies, this line is better than Campbell was abused behind last season with us.

The Raiders somehow had a GREAT draft. McClain is a monster, two great O-Tackles, some defensive depth.

He could actually see some success there. They always have a good running game too.

Good luck Jason, you'll need it.

I just can't understand why we gave him away for a 4th rounder in 2012. We might as well just gave him away for free. He's better than that. We could have kept him as a backup for one year instead of getting ripped off like this. Also, if we had drafted another QB late, this move would have made more sense. Jevan Sneed went undrafted, then signed with the Bucs.

Does this mean Colt Brennan is definitely staying?

[Bakerman]

I hoped JC17 would produce, but he didn't. Best of luck to the man in Oakland.

No QB would have done well with all the missteps the FO and DS had. The O line was a scrap heap of duct tape and bailing wire. Dan Marino would have had a tough time behind our O line of the last few years.

I don't excuse Campbell's play only based on the protection (or lack there of).
He was fairly classy overall, but his lack of personal accountability left me scratching my dome. Overall I'd say he was an average QB. Not a star, or even a contender. At least we have a stud now(even if he is on his last legs).

MS and BA will lead this team. For the first time since the Squire died I feel we have a legit team. If DS can keep his hands off we can and will be a contender again. Winning is EVERYTHING.

HTTR!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Oakland made some GREAT O-line picks, two guys I wouldn't mind seeing here in Bruce Campbell and Jared Veldheer. Even with two rookies, this line is better than Campbell was abused behind last season with us.

The Raiders somehow had a GREAT draft. McClain is a monster, two great O-Tackles, some defensive depth.

He could actually see some success there. They always have a good running game too.

Good luck Jason, you'll need it.

I just can't understand why we gave him away for a 5th rounder in 2012. We might as well just gave him away for free. He's better than that.

It's actually a 4th rounder, but I get the feeling that Oakland was kind of in the driver's seat with this one. They knew we had gotten McNabb and that eventually Campbell had to be traded or cut, I don't think anyone bought MS' whole "we'll keep Campbell if need be".

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Bakerman

I hoped JC17 would produce, but he didn't. Best of luck to the man in Oakland.

No QB would have done well with all the missteps the FO and DS had. The O line was a scrap heap of duct tape and bailing wire. Dan Marino would have had a tough time behind our O line of the last few years.

Personally, I'd be willing to give just about everyone a second chance because of this. The team was badly managed by the previous FO and coaching staff. Which is why I'm ok with not doing a complete house clean up.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

Oakland made some GREAT O-line picks, two guys I wouldn't mind seeing here in Bruce Campbell and Jared Veldheer. Even with two rookies, this line is better than Campbell was abused behind last season with us.

The Raiders somehow had a GREAT draft. McClain is a monster, two great O-Tackles, some defensive depth.

He could actually see some success there. They always have a good running game too.

Good luck Jason, you'll need it.

I just can't understand why we gave him away for a 4th rounder in 2012. We might as well just gave him away for free. He's better than that. We could have kept him as a backup for one year instead of getting ripped off like this. Also, if we had drafted another QB late, this move would have made more sense. Jevan Sneed went undrafted, then signed with the Bucs.

Does this mean Colt Brennan is definitely staying?

We're probably lucky to have gotten anything for him. There was talk a week or two ago that teams were just going to wait for us to release him.

[SolidSnake84]

Yeah i agree. I think most of the NFL world was expecting Campbell to be released prior to training camp, or shortly after the draft.

[SBXVII]

.... Adios.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I am making the Raiders my second favorite team. JC should have never been put in the Suanders offense or the Zorn(west coast offense). JC will be where he belongs in a verticle passing game. With the speed recievers he has they should be able to run under some of his over thown balls. I wish him the best and will use my Direct tv to keep an eye on him. With that said, having McNabb is Awsome.

So you watched the same QB as I did over the past five years. He might have a big arm but he cannot hit the side of a barn down field. His feel for the long pass down right sucked. When he should have lead the WR in he threw it out when he should have lead the WR out he threw it in. When he finally had a wide open WR down field he missed. I don't get how any one can say he had this vertical attack because I think that is the worse part of his game.

[CRedskinsRule]

A 4th in 2012 ought to help people who scream this FO is just trying to win now. I think it demonstrates a willingness to build picks in the future rather than just accept a lesser pick this year.