Shanahan The New Head Coach Of the Redskins

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Landry44

What are you basing this on? Do you have any evidence to support any of your rambles?

A decade of history following the team.

[Redskin Warrior]

Will my coach presser be on tv at 2 & if so what channel?

[hail_2_da_skins]

This is good news! I'm having a hard time seeing the downside of this hiring. I do not see BUSINESS AS USUAL.

[Lotus]

I found the "Rise and Fall of Zorn" article interesting because it says that one of the first things that Bruce Allen did was cancel Friday coach-owner lunches. Allen apparently did so on the theory that the buck stops with him, not with Snyder. So Rick Snider's cynical article is already mistaken in saying that, "no one will push for Snyder to throttle down his involvement." Bruce Allen already has.

We have an organizational new day! True football people are running the team with minimal interference. Glory be! HTTR!

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I found the "Rise and Fall of Zorn" article interesting because it says that one of the first things that Bruce Allen did was cancel Friday coach-owner lunches. Allen apparently did so on the theory that the buck stops with him, not with Snyder. So Rick Snider's cynical article is already mistaken in saying that, "no one will push for Snyder to throttle down his involvement." Bruce Allen already has.

We have an organizational new day! True football people are running the team with minimal interference. Glory be! HTTR!

"Bruce thought that the right line of communications was between himself and the head coach". - Dan Snyder :thumb:

[Monkeydad]

4 votes now. Now CP's buddy Gilbert Arenas showed up to vote.



*Another of my favorite players who is really falling out of my favor.

[Hog1]

Shanny's press conference will be live at 2 on Espn 980
ESPN 980 - Home of the Redskins

[GTripp0012]

I'm with BHA here. A wait-and-see approach is pointless to judge the quality of the hire.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Shanahan won't be an improvement over Jim Zorn (and twice on gameday), but the facts are that there was no actual coaching search, that this move was decided upon at least three months ago, and that I'm just not sure what the whole point of this hire really is.

Perhaps the whole point was just to try to restore respectability to the franchise as swiftly and as effectively as possible. By getting an established coach like Shanahan, you know you aren't getting a guy who can't handle the position. Maybe in the wake of Zorn's firing, that's all the plan really was.

If so, hard to complain about whether or not we actually win any playoff games in the next few years. I have a hard time seeing how this hire increases the chances of that over a hire of a lesser known name who has a similar track record of success. Maybe Mike Shanahan will be more successful here than he was in Denver, which would be great, but I'm not holding my breath.

I don't see any reason to trash this move, but if this was Plan A, I don't think this can really be considered a "top half" franchise. This move is nothing if not uninspired.

[Bushead]

I'm not disappointed with the excitement over Shanahan, but more of this fact it seems most people still think just one or two more players and the skins have a good team. It's Time to take a couple years to get shit together.

This is what exactly leads to the knee jerk reaction Dan Snyder uses. We need someone to be here for at least 3 years before expecting them to take us to the promised land, and that's regardless if their record the first two years is under .500 both times.

[vallin21]

I'm excited about Shanahan, but if he's smart he doesn't hire Zimmer as DC and he just worries about the O. This is a step in the right direction, but hiring Zimmer as DC, a guy who hasn't had much success in the places he's been DC is a huge mistake.

[tootergray34]

Dude Zimmer is the MAN what are you talking about?

HE ALSO CHEWS REDMAN!

[SkinEmAll]

bighairaristocrat, if shany was your second choice and you obviously 100% believe not a single thing has changed with the FO structure, what makes you think hiring cowher would ba any different? And also what difference does it truly matter if 3 months ago shany was on top of the list and their main target? They still had to interview him to see if he could be the right fit.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Mike Wilbon's take on the hire.

Michael Wilbon - Redskins hire Mike Shanahan, but will anything really change? - washingtonpost.com

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

bighairaristocrat, if shany was your second choice and you obviously 100% believe not a single thing has changed with the FO structure, what makes you think hiring cowher would ba any different? And also what difference does it truly matter if 3 months ago shany was on top of the list and their main target? They still had to interview him to see if he could be the right fit.

Overall, if we swapped Cowher for Shanahan and kept everything else the same, it wouldn't be much different. I'd be 10/10 happy with Cowher as a coach (as opposed to 8/10 with Shanahan), but just as skeptical about everything else, perhaps even moreso in the personnel department. While Shanahan is a proven failure as a personnel guy, there's no book on Cowher, since he's always relied on a good GM to provide him with players. He could have been great having final say, he could have been as bad as Shanahan, or he could have been worse.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Overall, if we swapped Cowher for Shanahan and kept everything else the same, it wouldn't be much different. I'd be 10/10 happy with Cowher as a coach (as opposed to 8/10 with Shanahan), but just as skeptical about everything else, perhaps even moreso in the personnel department. While Shanahan is a proven failure as a personnel guy, there's no book on Cowher, since he's always relied on a good GM to provide him with players. He could have been great having final say, he could have been as bad as Shanahan, or he could have been worse.

We need someone to help improve the offense as well as being a respected coach, which is Shanahan. It seems that if you are getting your facts from Wilbon then you are using other opinions to form this garbage you spew. I wondered why you never made sense, and now it's very clear. please tell me what Cowher would bring that Shanny doesn't, I'll wait until you email Wilbon and get your answer.