Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I'm standing with Brunell. Against Dallas, I'm standing with Brunell.

At least you are being consistent; you stood with him last season until he got benched. I hope that you are correct in your assessment of Brunell. I just don't think that you are. It's okay to agree to disagree.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by illdefined

how did Ramsey manage to score 20 points a game with those same guys then? still basing everything on pre-season huh, man some skins fans never learn about our luck with the pre-season..

There was also:

1. A more prominent role for Cooley
2. Gibbs more used to the new playclock
3. Offense more used to Gibbs' playbook

Among other things. The QB always gets more credit and blame than he deserves

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

Going into Dallas - with the way their defense is pressuring the Quarterback - I just feel more comfortable with Brunell. He is more mobile and knows how to protect the ball far better than Ramsey.

I think if Ramsey has time to stand back there, he can really make things happen; but in this day and age (and this is why they drafted Campbell) - with the way that defenses blitz, you just need someone who is going to be able to move around a bit.

first post for Brunell that makes some kind of sense, but that's basically putting everything on Portis again and forsaking the long ball. just like last year, like 6-10 last year.

[SUNRA]

Since Ramsey could not handle the role as the leader of this team, Portis said in an interview, that he would resume the role as the leader and motivate this team. That's what the team needs right now as we embark on busting up this losing streak against those Bums in Irving,TX. I really have no sympathy for a young QB who has had more opportunities than most and just couldn't cut the mustard. I knew this from the beginning. But I remained optimistic.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Brunell doesn't make big mistakes (which is a big plus for any quarterback), but he doesn't move the ball either. I could do the same thing by handing off the ball or taking a knee (and thus not throwing any picks) and not gaining any yards. I don't think any team can abandon the passing game and expect to win many games. I think we've essentially given up on the passing game by handing the ball to Brunell.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Since Ramsey could not handle the role as the leader of this team, Portis said in an interview, that he would resume the role as the leader and motivate this team. That's what the team needs right now as we embark on busting up this losing streak against those Bums in Irving,TX. I really have no sympathy for a young QB who has had more opportunities than most and just couldn't cut the mustard. I knew this from the beginning. But I remained optimistic.

And Brunell "cut the mustard?" I think that the only thing Brunell cut was the cheese (yes I know that is corny).

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I really have no sympathy for a young QB who has had more opportunities than most and just couldn't cut the mustard. I knew this from the beginning. But I remained optimistic.

3 drives is more opportunities than most? that has to be a record for the opposite. and yet you have sympathy for an ancient QB who had all the opportunities in the world last year and couldn't cut it, strange.

[BigSKINBauer]

I am gonna stand by whatever QB is playing. Let it be. Ramsey was not amazing, i want him to start but we all know that Ramsey wasn't as good as brunell during preseason. i can't believe that all that talk about ramsey starting was nothing more than 15 minutes. I think we took Gibbs' words way to serious last year when he said that ramsey was our guy. We can still win, we really can and to say the season is over is just silly, if we beat dallas and brunell does good we will all be praising gibbs as a god again. Please lets not lose our respect for him.

There is no doubt in my mind brunell is smarter than ramsey, only thing is i don't know if he can put the ball where his head tells him to. Remember last time brunell played dallas he picked up over 300 yards

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Brunell is turning 36 this weekend. Isn't that the oldest starting quarterback in the league. Ahhh, once again our team is planning for the future.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Gibbs will not trade Ramsey at this point in the season it would be a crazy risk. He was also speaking in terms of seeing how this immediate game goes and seeing who emerges throughout the season. Don't count Patrick out yet. He is upset right now and is thinking of making rash decisions, a good night sleep will probably cure. I know this situation will work out!!!!

I agree with part of this. Ramsey also started demanding a trade after they brought Brunell in, in the first place.

If we drop about three or four though, I have a feeling it might be Campbell and not Ramsey, who we see put in there.

[skinsfan0201]

no offense to anyone, but we will be very lucky if we beat Dallas in Dallas this Monday Night.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

At least you are being consistent; you stood with him last season until he got benched. I hope that you are correct in your assessment of Brunell. I just don't think that you are. It's okay to agree to disagree.

True. I just want to win. Who ever can get the job done with minimal turnovers.

I mentioned in the thread for the prediction to the Bears game that: Special teams was a critical area for our success and Antonio Brown's performance must be evaluated and seriously reconsidered. Wasn't it him, who fumbled last season against Dallas which kept them in the game? I'm telling you, we can not afford to have a punt returner returning a punt 5 yds in a game and fumbling. The QB position and the Special Teams play is critical if we want to have a winning season.

[saskin]

I think we're all just getting caught up in the moment...even Ramsey. I think we'll be thinking a bit better in the morning.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

no offense to anyone, but we will be very lucky if we beat Dallas in Dallas this Monday Night.

Luck? By the way our defense is playing, with minimal injuries, I would say Dallas will be lucky to score a TD against us if we don't turn the ball over. This is our year to finally break this slump of losing to a bum ass team.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I agree with part of this. Ramsey also started demanding a trade after they brought Brunell in, in the first place.

If we drop about three or four though, I have a feeling it might be Campbell and not Ramsey, who we see put in there.

Ramsey was smart to ask for that first trade, he saw what was coming and it would've been the best thing for him and us. the entire off-season we wasted on believing Gibb's word we could have been giving Campbell and yes even Brunell more time with the new receivers. now we have yet more crappy drama, uncertainty and unhappy players (dont think its just Patrick).