Round 2 Nfl playoffs.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Superbowl rings imo should have zero to do with rankings. Dan Marino is in my top 5. Eli, Trent, Rypien, and a host of others are not. Off the top of my head i would go
Brady
Marino
Elway
Manning
Moon

Edit: i hesitate about the Staubachs, Bradshaws, Montanas, and Youngs because they were surrounded by HOF everythings. What some of my top 5 did with the teams they had is amazing. That being said I wouldnt balk at a list that had any of those guys. Otto Graham. Sammy Baugh. Im too young to know.

I agree thst maybe SB wins shouldn't be the most important factor, but only for QBs who only won it once: Dilfer, Rypien, Brad Johnson, McMahon, etc. If they have multiple rings they deserve to be in the discussion for GOAT. Sorry, but winning superbowla is what it's all about. And all great QBs played on teams surrounded by HOFs, otherwise they wouldn't be dynasties. But t all starts with the QB. You don't have a dynasty without a top QB of all time.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Superbowl rings imo should have zero to do with rankings. Dan Marino is in my top 5. Eli, Trent, Rypien, and a host of others are not. Off the top of my head i would go
Brady
Marino
Elway
Manning
Moon

Edit: i hesitate about the Staubachs, Bradshaws, Montanas, and Youngs because they were surrounded by HOF everythings. What some of my top 5 did with the teams they had is amazing. That being said I wouldnt balk at a list that had any of those guys. Otto Graham. Sammy Baugh. Im too young to know.

if you watch old otto graham tape and put it in context it's crazy. he was running a passing attack that was 20 years ahead of its time. comebacks, timing routes, etc that no one else was running back then. 114-20-4 as a starter, 9 ypa, and a NBL (NBA) championship to boot. he also coached the skins for 3 years, but that didn't work out well, and he was replaced with vince lombardi. craziness.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by That Guy

if you watch old otto graham tape and put it in context it's crazy. he was running a passing attack that was 20 years ahead of its time. comebacks, timing routes, etc that no one else was running back then. 114-20-4 as a starter, 9 ypa, and a NBL (NBA) championship to boot. he also coached the skins for 3 years, but that didn't work out well, and he was replaced with vince lombardi. craziness.

That is a crazy wins loss record. Insane. Just total domination. Im sure he belongs in the top 5 but too long ago for me to completely fathom it....

[OmahaRedskins]

Bradshaw called his own plays and won 4 SB. He is top 5 of all time. Montana, Brady, Elway, Kelly, and Bradsaw.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Bradshaw called his own plays and won 4 SB. He is top 5 of all time. Montana, Brady, Elway, Kelly, and Bradsaw.

Man talk about surrounded by HOFers. Stallworth, Swann, Bleier, Franco, Webster. A D that would have won games without those guys. Lol. Could have plugged John Beck into that team n probably won several games.

[OmahaRedskins]

Where do you place Aikman? I put him then next group. Manning, Marino, Aikman, Favre, Moon, and Roethlisberger.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Where do you place Aikman? I put him then next group. Manning, Marino, Aikman, Favre, Moon, and Roethlisberger.

Second tier.

Aikman, Farve, Young, Marino, Fouts, Kelly, Moon, Staubach, Brees.

I think Manning is top tier and Bradshaw second, despite the SBs.

Then there are the greats from when the QB position was something quite different: Unitas, Starr, Baugh.

[Chico23231]

1. Manning
1 a. Brady
2. Horse tooth jackass
2a Montana
3. Marino

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

1. Manning

1 a. Brady

2. Horse tooth jackass

2a Montana

3. Marino

[Chico23231]

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