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Old 11-08-2012, 11:43 AM   #1
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Re: Defensive Parts

deion was a good all around athlete... and thats good for the position and for punt returning which when he was young was another one of his claims to fame.. not a bad player... green all day but deion bashing is un-needed the guy had a pretty decent career and was exciting to watch
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:10 PM   #2
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Last season, the Redskins defense was stellar all season long and finished with a 13th place ranking in the NFL. As we all know, the defense has regressed this season after it showed much progress last season. I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact cause. Is it the scheme, the coverages that are called, or is the problem the personnel? Haslett can't truly be the problem as the defense in the past under his watch has been better.

If the problem is indeed the personnel in the secondary, then what players need to be replaced as a result? It's been said that D. Hall is not a true #1 CB and neither is Josh Wilson. Reed Doughty, while a decent fill in, can only help so much. And Madieu Williams has played more poorly than great although I credit him with a pick 6 against the Vikings weeks back. Brandon Meriweather hasn't played all season and Mike Shanahan should be blamed for signing a junky like Tanard Jackson, knowing full well that he had been in trouble with the NFL before for past offenses.

Next year in the draft or/and free agency, which players do the Redskins target to fix this anemic problem?

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I think slightly better than average is more like it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:14 PM   #3
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Can't repalce the entire defense. Are we going to just bring in more free agents?Remember, Wilson was a free agent, everyone liked it when he signed and now everyone wants to run him off. To me, Wilson just needs to be coached up. He's been in position most of the time, he's just not making the plays. Hall? Now that's another story.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:57 PM   #4
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Can't repalce the entire defense. Are we going to just bring in more free agents?Remember, Wilson was a free agent, everyone liked it when he signed and now everyone wants to run him off. To me, Wilson just needs to be coached up. He's been in position most of the time, he's just not making the plays. Hall? Now that's another story.
Chris Wilson played well in the preseason. He got a sack for a safety. But he's not Brian Orakpo and people want to see Wilson and Rob Jackson do the same things as Orakpo did. That's not going to happen simply because neither Jackson or Wilson are as talent as Orakpo. What Mike Shanahan needs to do is get another free agent signing with someone who can rush the passer just like Orakpo. Sure, it may cost money. But at least if Orakpo goes down with injury again this new free agent can step in and there will be no drop off like what happening now.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:05 PM   #5
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Chris Wilson played well in the preseason. He got a sack for a safety. But he's not Brian Orakpo and people want to see Wilson and Rob Jackson do the same things as Orakpo did. That's not going to happen simply because neither Jackson or Wilson are as talent as Orakpo. What Mike Shanahan needs to do is get another free agent signing with someone who can rush the passer just like Orakpo. Sure, it may cost money. But at least if Orakpo goes down with injury again this new free agent can step in and there will be no drop off like what happening now.
Bringing in free agents doesn't seem to work around here, or in general around the league. We have to hit some home runs in the draft.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:37 PM   #6
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let's trade jim hasslett to the bucs for some future 1st rounders
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:28 PM   #7
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let's trade jim hasslett to the bucs for some future 1st rounders
Damn Panda, what did the Bucs do to you, iv'e never had a problem with them, why screw them over like that??
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:31 PM   #8
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Damn Panda, what did the Bucs do to you, iv'e never had a problem with them, why screw them over like that??
for starters.

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for starters.

Oooh yeah. But didnt we come back and beat them in the playoffs that year???
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Oooh yeah. But didnt we come back and beat them in the playoffs that year???
yes
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:12 PM   #11
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With secondary being the strongest part of the upcoming draft, trading a pick makes no sense when we can get a CB and S in the 2nd and 3rd, and you know Shanny will stockpile picks.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:29 PM   #12
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The 3-4 defense doesn't work without a dominant NT, period. Show me one example of a dominant 3-4 w/o a monster at NT...

Short of acquiring one of a handful of dominant NTs the switch back to 4-3 is common sense. What the last three years proves is running a 3-4 w/o that guy...just...doesn't...work. Unless a middle of the pack defense (last year) is good enough for everyone?

Our current group of d linemen and LBs will perform better in the 4-3 anyway. We need to add at least three quality starters to the secondary: two safeties and a CB.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:39 PM   #13
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^^^ Yeah Marcus Washington!!!
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^^^ Yeah Marcus Washington!!!
Oh yeah, I had a full blown man crush on that him!! Loved the way he played, perfect example of an outside linebacker in the 4-3.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:50 PM   #15
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take it back a little further, to the 1999 season. i know we turked ourselves, but still.
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