2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Nobody's talking about the debate yet?

To me, Obama fell flat tonight. So much so it was almost a little painful for me. I'm hoping he'll go in for the kill next debate because boy, was that rough.

As far as facts go, they were both full of it, as usual. Just on pure style I was expecting Obama to win easily, and early on it he was winning. But it didn't last long, and Romney won most of the debate and going away.

I'm trying to be balanced on the substance, below. It helps that on most things like Obamacare vs. Romneycare, neither side is particularly appealing.

Obama should quit trying to strawman Romney on imaginary positions, and keep hammering him on the principles that Romney actually shares with W. Bush which he did. And point out more clearly the economy has improved over time on his watch, even if he hasn't had the dramatic recovery that Clinton and Reagan could point to when they ran for re-election.

Romney should quit saying he's going to repeal whole programs of Obama's then say only change parts of them, and hammer Obama on the lack of recovery in four years, which he did. And point out clearly his success in his previous office and his own plans, which he did in as much detail as other presidential candidates including Senator Obama has done.

I don't expect every debate to be like this, but if they were, Romney would win the election handily.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

As far as facts go, they were both full of it, as usual. Just on pure style I was expecting Obama to win easily, and early on it he was winning. But it didn't last long, and Romney won most of the debate and going away.

I'm trying to be balanced on the substance, below. It helps that on most things like Obamacare vs. Romneycare, neither side is particularly appealing.

Obama should quit trying to strawman Romney on imaginary positions, and keep hammering him on the principles that Romney actually shares with W. Bush which he did. And point out more clearly the economy has improved over time on his watch, even if he hasn't had the dramatic recovery that Clinton and Reagan could point to when they ran for re-election.

Romney should quit saying he's going to repeal whole programs of Obama's then say only change parts of them, and hammer Obama on the lack of recovery in four years, which he did. And point out clearly his success in his previous office and his own plans, which he did in as much detail as other presidential candidates including Senator Obama has done.

I don't expect every debate to be like this, but if they were, Romney would win the election handily.

I agree with you,I was mad at the education segment of the debate ,Romney say Mass has the best schools...nope....
Newsweek's Top 20 High Schools: Northeast - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

only one high school in the top 20 of the northeast and that's out on the Cape.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree with you,I was mad at the education segment of the debate ,Romney say Mass has the best schools...nope....
Newsweek's Top 20 High Schools: Northeast - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

only one high school in the top 20 of the northeast and that's out on the Cape.

He was talking about education in general not school by school.

State Education Rankings: The Best And Worst For Math And Science

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree with you,I was mad at the education segment of the debate ,Romney say Mass has the best schools...nope....
Newsweek's Top 20 High Schools: Northeast - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

only one high school in the top 20 of the northeast and that's out on the Cape.

odds are good that Romney was talking about a survey that's more accurate than anything you could pull out of your *** as usual. but you didn't consider that did you?

edit: and I see firstdown found an example above. thanks fd.