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Old 09-27-2011, 02:00 PM   #1
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Re: Who Can Lead This Team?

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Thanks for your concern for my sense of calm.
Hey, it's your season, you can be angry or zen, or anywhere in between. The only thing you can't do is change the decisions of the coaching staff. /shrug

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If that were the case, and he were less erratic with the ball, ala Jason Campbell, we would probably be staring at a 3 in the win column.
Don't get me wrong; I was a HUGE JC17 supporter here (check my post history). I am pulling for him in Chokeland. But the knock on him was "he's a mediocre game manager and will never be able get you a win if you need to put the ball in his hands" and that's largely continued to be true in OAK. They aren't winning because of him, he's just there not to eff it up.

Rex is definitely who we thought he was, which is to say, Favre-lite, minus the dong pics. But the coaches obviously felt that they needed that big-play gunslinger mentality more than a dink-and-dunk game manager, which is what Campbell has become.

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The fact that you infatically claim to know how Beck will play without the evidentiary material to back it up is pretty shortsighted.
I don't claim to know. I leave that up to Mike and Kyle Shanahan.

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Do I know, unequivocally, that Beck can do that. No. But the point is I know Rex can't.
I'm not saying Beck can't either (though again, I think he's had ample time to prove that he is markedly better than Rex and failed, which is fairly damning in and of itself). I'm just saying I don't really think a QB controversy and rebooting the offense right now in the name of chasing wins, under the very Snyder-esque pretense that we're close to being a contender, is a very productive thing to do.
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:04 PM   #2
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Hey, it's your season, you can be angry or zen, or anywhere in between. The only thing you can't do is change the decisions of the coaching staff. /shrug
I do recogize the things which are in my power to control. I'm not deluded and the governing of existential emotion doesn't elude me. But this is a forum where I am afforded the opportunity to speak candidly on my personal position.


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Rex is definitely who we thought he was, which is to say, Favre-lite, minus the dong pics. But the coaches obviously felt that they needed that big-play gunslinger mentality more than a dink-and-dunk game manager, which is what Campbell has become.
I don't think I could disagree more vehemently with this statement as long as we're not purely speaking stats. The stats, in the int department, are somewhat similiar. But the similarities between Farve and Grossman stop there. I abhor this mentality of applying the "gun slinger" euphemism to any player who is careless with the rock. Rex doesn't throw darts he throws balloons, and he'll dress like a clown and perform a spasmodic magic routine at your childs birthday party for $7 an hour. And where are these mythological big-plays you speak of. All I've seen are underthrown long balls and floating out routes in that catagory. There have been a number of missed opportunities in that realm though.



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I don't claim to know. I leave that up to Mike and Kyle Shanahan.
I simply don't trust them enough to make the right player personel decisions based on what I've seen so far. Kyle seems like an arrogant coat tail climber who wants things his way, and he'll throw a temper tantrum to Daddy if he doesn't get them. It was clear from the genesis of his tenure here that he wanted Rex to be his QB. Because Rex is pandering, calling his offense brilliant, and him a genius, it fed his ego, and it also helped that Rex was malleable and did exactly what he was told without criticism.



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I'm not saying Beck can't either (though again, I think he's had ample time to prove that he is markedly better than Rex and failed, which is fairly damning in and of itself). I'm just saying I don't really think a QB controversy and rebooting the offense right now in the name of chasing wins, under the very Snyder-esque pretense that we're close to being a contender, is a very productive thing to do.
I don't know what you consider ample time. Is it being picked up from the Ravens just before the first preseason game in 2010. Or is it vying for a job as a starter in a lockout addled offseason. Or maybe missing the first preseason game this year due to injury.

I don't believe that there is a reboot to Kyle's offense. It is what it is. And there is no controversy if you make a definitive decision to change QBs without fluctuation. I don't believe we're close to being a contender which is the fundamental reason I would make a change to the guy who doesn't have real game film, or experience vs playing the guy who will forever remain a carbon copy of his former self.

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