Ramsey's last days as a Redskin

joethiesmanfan · 04-21-2005, 06:33 PM

well whats wrong with ramsey? everyone says he doesnt produce cause he hasnt had the right talent around him, if those qbs did it without great talent around them then maybe we do need antoher qb?

Defensewins · 04-21-2005, 06:48 PM

I disagree that this a weak QB class. It is not strong, but it is not weak either.
I think Jason Campbell and Adrian McPherson will have more upside than Alex Smith and Aaron Rogers, who will be drafted in the top 5.
Campbell and McPherson are legit athletes...I hear McPhereson can throw a 75 yard ball flat footed,has great speed, size and light up theArena League.
I think some of you guys are short changing what Campbell did in college. He played in the SEC, was on a champions hip contender and had a different offensive coordinator and system all of his four years at Auburn.

Just like Roethlisberger outplayed Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers last year, I think McPherson and Cambell will do better than the Qb's drafted ahead of them.

Regarding Ramsey, if he can not take the pressure of having a rookie QB on the roster in his fourth year, there is no way he will stand up to the pressure of being an NFL QB.
It looks bad when I hear folks saying it would put too much pressure on him. Is he man or a mouse?

JWsleep · 04-21-2005, 07:32 PM

Let's assume that the Campbell thing IS a smokescreen (I do assume this, BTW). What follows? WHy do this?

This has the effect of raising Campbell's stock, and of distracting people from what we really want, viz., CBs, WRs, DEs. It also makes Pastabelly look bad. All this seems a-ok with me. If it convinces someone in front of us to jump at Campbell, great. That's one less team taking a CB, WR, etc. in front of us. But this seems a rather elaborate smokescreen, plus it rattles Ramsey's cage. Reports from the Post and ESPN (neither friends of the skins at present) both had Gibbs at Auburn working out Campbell. Gibbs didn't deny this. So maybe it's just a deal of rating players and considering what might be there at 25. We'll see.

skin4Life28 · 04-21-2005, 07:33 PM

I have no doubt that Campbell and McPherson will be good. They are the two best athlets at the qb position. Finally someone brought up the SEC, hands down the best football conference in the past years. Feel free to argue all you want bout that, but its true. Campbell has handled himself so well this year that he should be a first rounder. McPherson is carrying some very heavy baggage, but I was a gm I think I would take a shot on him. Saturday will answer all of our rants and questions. But if we do draft Campbell it would be completly unfair to him to not want him here. Aka Philly when they got McNabb. Now he is one the most beloved qbs.

skinsguy · 04-21-2005, 08:14 PM

I say let's worry about it after the Redskins make their selections this weekend. Too many people are getting their panties in a wad before we have even made a move.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 04-21-2005, 08:20 PM

i'm wondering if the skins do take campbell,which qb is gonna get the ax?brunnell or
hassleback?

skinsguy · 04-21-2005, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINFAN63

i'm wondering if the skins do take campbell,which qb is gonna get the ax?brunnell or
hassleback?

Won't be Brunell this year...maybe in '06.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I say let's worry about it after the Redskins make their selections this weekend. Too many people are getting their panties in a wad before we have even made a move.

Amen to that.

BigSKINBauer · 04-21-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

In reference to Gibbs' visit to Auburn, it's possible he was visiting Rogers.

i think i heard they said gibbs looked at campbell a lot and asked bout em.......... but i by no means am saying that he went for campbell only and i really dont think we r pickn him

56FAN · 04-22-2005, 10:14 AM

i think we draft carlos rogers because the need at cb is great than wr,besides their is greater value later in the 1st at wr, williamson possibly, roddy white jones out of arkansas and vincent and the guy from georgia, we trade gardner p/u a 3rd, maybe, and hopefully can p/u elton brown with the 3rd or 4th. he's the guard out of uva.who knows maybe we trade the 25th drop back p/u a wr and de later. dice are rolling and we don't know how they'll fall. it's going to be interesting.

04-21-2005, 06:33 PM	#76
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin well whats wrong with ramsey? everyone says he doesnt produce cause he hasnt had the right talent around him, if those qbs did it without great talent around them then maybe we do need antoher qb?

04-21-2005, 06:48 PM	#77
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,765	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I disagree that this a weak QB class. It is not strong, but it is not weak either. I think Jason Campbell and Adrian McPherson will have more upside than Alex Smith and Aaron Rogers, who will be drafted in the top 5. Campbell and McPherson are legit athletes...I hear McPhereson can throw a 75 yard ball flat footed,has great speed, size and light up theArena League. I think some of you guys are short changing what Campbell did in college. He played in the SEC, was on a champions hip contender and had a different offensive coordinator and system all of his four years at Auburn. Just like Roethlisberger outplayed Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers last year, I think McPherson and Cambell will do better than the Qb's drafted ahead of them. Regarding Ramsey, if he can not take the pressure of having a rookie QB on the roster in his fourth year, there is no way he will stand up to the pressure of being an NFL QB. It looks bad when I hear folks saying it would put too much pressure on him. Is he man or a mouse?

04-21-2005, 07:32 PM	#78
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin Let's assume that the Campbell thing IS a smokescreen (I do assume this, BTW). What follows? WHy do this? This has the effect of raising Campbell's stock, and of distracting people from what we really want, viz., CBs, WRs, DEs. It also makes Pastabelly look bad. All this seems a-ok with me. If it convinces someone in front of us to jump at Campbell, great. That's one less team taking a CB, WR, etc. in front of us. But this seems a rather elaborate smokescreen, plus it rattles Ramsey's cage. Reports from the Post and ESPN (neither friends of the skins at present) both had Gibbs at Auburn working out Campbell. Gibbs didn't deny this. So maybe it's just a deal of rating players and considering what might be there at 25. We'll see. __________________ Hail from Houston!

04-21-2005, 07:33 PM	#79
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 39 Posts: 447	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I have no doubt that Campbell and McPherson will be good. They are the two best athlets at the qb position. Finally someone brought up the SEC, hands down the best football conference in the past years. Feel free to argue all you want bout that, but its true. Campbell has handled himself so well this year that he should be a first rounder. McPherson is carrying some very heavy baggage, but I was a gm I think I would take a shot on him. Saturday will answer all of our rants and questions. But if we do draft Campbell it would be completly unfair to him to not want him here. Aka Philly when they got McNabb. Now he is one the most beloved qbs.

04-21-2005, 08:14 PM	#80
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I say let's worry about it after the Redskins make their selections this weekend. Too many people are getting their panties in a wad before we have even made a move. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

04-21-2005, 08:20 PM	#81
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 62 Posts: 289	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin i'm wondering if the skins do take campbell,which qb is gonna get the ax?brunnell or hassleback? __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

04-22-2005, 10:14 AM	#85
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 63 Posts: 323	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin i think we draft carlos rogers because the need at cb is great than wr,besides their is greater value later in the 1st at wr, williamson possibly, roddy white jones out of arkansas and vincent and the guy from georgia, we trade gardner p/u a 3rd, maybe, and hopefully can p/u elton brown with the 3rd or 4th. he's the guard out of uva.who knows maybe we trade the 25th drop back p/u a wr and de later. dice are rolling and we don't know how they'll fall. it's going to be interesting.

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