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View Poll Results: What QB Do You Want at #10? | |||
Jake Locker |
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44 | 34.38% |
Ryan Mallett |
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18 | 14.06% |
Cam Newton |
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23 | 17.97% |
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19 | 14.84% |
Blaine Gabbert |
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24 | 18.75% |
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#121 |
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
I do also lol Actually I wouldn't mind drafting him SHIT why not?? This team needs a Young Star to come in and have high expectations
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
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That's to say nothing of where his value might actually lie, I was just trying to point out that even though you might sometimes have to talk about stats, I can isolate a single statistic from the rest of the picture and show how rare it is for someone who can't complete passes to be successful. Rare does not equal impossible: Doug Williams had multiple valuable years where he was at the bottom of the league in comp %. That's not to avoid context, but I don't believe you can view that point as valueless and still remain intellectually honest. If a GREAT team were to take a flyer on Jake Locker and then tear him down and try to rebuild his mechanics, maybe you get a different player entirely. But even in such a hypothetical, you're already given the benefit of a strong organizations, and with the exception of maybe the 2009 Packers, strong organizations don't pick in the top ten unless they pick up a pick from a lesser organization.
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
Rather than draft Newton I'd rather wait and draft Tyrod Taylor in the 4th round. I watched enough of both this year. They're the same player. Newton is taller. Tyrod is more experienced. That's it.
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
And where is this 4th round pick coming from? The draft fairy?
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
Some folks really need to look before they ramble on :smashfrea
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LMAO now thats funny... Good Joke man ![]()
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
It's no joke. Cam Newton is no NFL QB. Put it down. I kept trying all season to see him as a better version of Vince Young. One with a better head. All I saw was an athletic kid on a crazy talented team who'll get eaten alive in the NFL where he isn't nearly the athlete nor the passer Vick was when he came out.
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
I've decided to go with Locker. He might be a bit risky for #10 overall, but he is one of the top five college passers I have ever seen throwing on the run and he isn't afraid to target covered receivers a la Drew Brees(the best I have ever seen in this regard).
No matter how well a cb covers in the NFL an elite qb can set up the receiver to win the battle a vast majority of the time. Most NFL qb's don't target covered receivers a la Jason Campbell. The reason is that their brains don't function fast enough and or they are pussies and or they just don't have the elite qb gene. I think this guy might have it. He also has size, ridiculous speed and a big arm. He fits the system. I say go for it Shanahan. |
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
As long as we're talking about players who vastly underacheived expectations in 2010, I like Texas A&M's Jerrod Johnson as a 6th or 7th round project. I think he has a lot of Tyrod Taylor's skill set, but with way less of the steep curve that's ahead of teams who look at Taylor as a future NFL starter.
Taylor is a lot like Troy Smith coming out of college. 4 years later, Smith really still plays like a successful college QB instead of a long-term pro prospect. There's nothing inherent to suggest that Taylor is doomed to the same fate: I could see him being a great pro player. But having the complete skill set isn't a guarantee of NFL success.
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But taking a flyer on Taylor in the 4th (I knew and know we don't have one) seems like a helluva better deal than drafting Cam Newton at 10. We don't have the luxury of drafting players with gigantic potential downsides like he does. |
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But the reality right now is that we are not trading players for picks until a CBA gets done and no one knows when that will be.
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
I didn't get to see a lot of Locker. What I did see didn't give me the warm fuzzies. He didn't appear to be much of a play maker in the pocket and their offense was rather stagnant because it seemed pretty basic. I didn't notice that he had great command and/or good recognition. All-in-all he looked like a tools guy rather than a heady-tools guy. You can coach up tools...coaching up heady is pretty damn hard.
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
I agree. I was playing along with the premise of the thread.
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