Senate Majority Leader Reid has racist comments towards Obama come to light

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

No biggie as far as this won't have a big impact on Reid's chances of winning or losing his seat in Nevada. He's already down in the polls and I don't think this comment will sink him any further. But I guess that remains to be seen. He certainly didn't do himself any favors that's for sure. Further, this is hardly Harry Reid's first bone headed comment. He has foot in mouth disease about as much as Joe Biden does, but for some reason Reid's comments tend to fly under the radar.

But let's cut to the chase with this. Do I think Reid is a racist, I don't know for sure but I'm inclined to say no. Reason being is his legislative record has been towards social justice, which primarily benefits minorities and people of color, and the fact that he has no track record, that I'm aware of, that suggest otherwise. I think Harry Reid is just culturally disconnected. That's my take on it. And I don't think he's disconnected on the issue of race alone.

Is there a double standard, I'm not so sure on that one either. When I think of the recent Republican history, names like Strom Thurman, Senator Jim Demint, Maj. Leader Trent Lott, AG John Ashcroft, Gov. Haley Barbour, and Sen. George Allen have either delved into playing racial politics or displayed racially insensitive behavior. More recently Chip Saltsman, who was running for RNC Chair, was circulating the Barack the Magic Negro tape. That was, what, seven months ago? It's through that lens which most people, indeed minorities, tend to view the GOP when it comes to race. It's not entirely justified, as we know that Republicans aren't racists, but many in the GOP until this day still refuse to denounce the confederate flag. So the seemingly double standard has it's roots in recent history.

As far President Obama and Rahm jumping all over some comment made by either side, I disagree. The president has gone out of his way to avoid controversial statements like this from both sides, and I can assure you they have more important issues to worry about than who's tossing around the word negro. If that were they case, they would have pounced on Joe Biden, and a few others, during the campaign when Biden called Obama clean and articulate, but they didn't. The last thing the president and the White House want to get bogged down with is the issue of race.

Then maybe he'll find ways to get his party to drive out Reid while he focuses on bigger things.

Obama in '02: 'The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott' | The Weekly Standard

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Then maybe he'll find ways to get his party to drive out Reid while he focuses on bigger things.

Obama in '02: 'The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott' | The Weekly Standard

slightly diff comments lol

one dealt with stereotypical dialect and the other was based on a complete ideology

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

slightly diff comments lol

one dealt with stereotypical dialect and the other was based on a complete ideology

One was being made at a birthday party for a friend, the other was about the President of the United States. You're right they are different.

If the Dems have standards, Reid will be forced to resign like Lott. He's going to lose his election huge anyways, but why keep him until then?

In case anyone is confused about what Reid is talking about, here's an example of a stereotypical black dialect:

[saden1]

Much ado about nothing. I didn't find it offensive at all...he in fact spoke the truth and seeing he was an early supporter of Obama and encouraged him to run he gets a pass. Now if he was an Obama hater like Bill Clinton and said "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," it's a different story. No Bill, some of us aren't wait staff you can send on coffee runs for you. I guess Bill forgot he was a redneck hick from Arkan'saw not too long ago.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

Much ado about nothing.

It' always is when Democrats say something racist.


Remember Howard Dean's "the only time you'd see black people at a GOP meeting is if they're part of the wait staff"?

Hillary's "Ghandi is working at a gas station"?

Joe Biden's "can't work at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian accent"?

The KKK Wizard Robert Byrd's "white n!ggers" comments?

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton...even Jesse Jackson can be a prominent Democrat who is on record with racist remarks and still have their jobs or their stature of power in the party. Even President Obama himself has made many campaign remarks a lot of people have taken as racist or race-baiting.



When a Republican makes a similar or even less-offensive comment regarding race, they're run out of town by the media and usually, their colleagues in the GOP. When a Dem does it, it's always "much ado about nothing".

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Buster

It' always is when Democrats say something racist.


Remember Howard Dean's "the only time you'd see black people at a GOP meeting is if they're part of the wait staff"?

Hillary's "Ghandi is working at a gas station"?

Joe Biden's "can't work at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian accent"?

The KKK Wizard Robert Byrd's "white n!ggers" comments?

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton...even Jesse Jackson can be a prominent Democrat who is on record with racist remarks and still have their jobs or their stature of power in the party. Even President Obama himself has made many campaign remarks a lot of people have taken as racist or race-baiting.



When a Republican makes a similar or even less-offensive comment regarding race, they're run out of town by the media and usually, their colleagues in the GOP. When a Dem does it, it's always "much ado about nothing".

Come on man don't you know the left cannot be racist by the fact they are from the left. This is not important right now they need to work hard on health care, tax and trade, and terrorism the real work for the American people.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Come on man don't you know the left cannot be racist by the fact they are from the left. This is not important right now they need to work hard on health care, tax and trade, and terrorism the real work for the American people.

It's not called terrorism any more, they're "man-caused disasters"!


Keep up, man!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Buster

It' always is when Democrats say something racist.


Remember Howard Dean's "the only time you'd see black people at a GOP meeting is if they're part of the wait staff"?

Hillary's "Ghandi is working at a gas station"?

Joe Biden's "can't work at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian accent"?

The KKK Wizard Robert Byrd's "white n!ggers" comments?

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton...even Jesse Jackson can be a prominent Democrat who is on record with racist remarks and still have their jobs or their stature of power in the party. Even President Obama himself has made many campaign remarks a lot of people have taken as racist or race-baiting.



When a Republican makes a similar or even less-offensive comment regarding race, they're run out of town by the media and usually, their colleagues in the GOP. When a Dem does it, it's always "much ado about nothing".

I'll give you some of that.. but some of those people do not hold office either. It must suck sitting there hearing a Dem say something that a Republican WANTS to say, but can't.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I'll give you some of that.. but some of those people do not hold office either. It must suck sitting there hearing a Dem say something that a Republican WANTS to say, but can't.

So now because the Dems say these thing it something a rep. wants to say. Just more BS from the left who cannot handle the truth about the leaders of their party.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Buster

It' always is when Democrats say something racist.


Remember Howard Dean's "the only time you'd see black people at a GOP meeting is if they're part of the wait staff"?

Hillary's "Ghandi is working at a gas station"?

Joe Biden's "can't work at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian accent"?

The KKK Wizard Robert Byrd's "white n!ggers" comments?

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton...even Jesse Jackson can be a prominent Democrat who is on record with racist remarks and still have their jobs or their stature of power in the party. Even President Obama himself has made many campaign remarks a lot of people have taken as racist or race-baiting.



When a Republican makes a similar or even less-offensive comment regarding race, they're run out of town by the media and usually, their colleagues in the GOP. When a Dem does it, it's always "much ado about nothing".

Yes, there's a double standard...now go beat a horse or something

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

Yes, there's a double standard...now go beat a horse or something

We know what you beat.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by saden1

Much ado about nothing. I didn't find it offensive at all...he in fact spoke the truth and seeing he was an early supporter of Obama and encouraged him to run he gets a pass. Now if he was an Obama hater like Bill Clinton and said "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," it's a different story. No Bill, some of us aren't wait staff you can send on coffee runs for you. I guess Bill forgot he was a redneck hick from Arkan'saw not too long ago.

yeah that poor hick Rhodes Scholar

Bill Clinton was out of office so you guys are really reaching to make this seem the same, without context you can't even say if that was racist.. you could equally and maybe more so argue that it means he just had little experience.. you know the guys that get coffee for the higher ups

[saden1]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

yeah that poor hick Rhodes Scholar

As if Obama is some f'cking chump from Randolph-Macon College. What exactly is your point?

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Bill Clinton was out of office so you guys are really reaching to make this seem the same, without context you can't even say if that was racist.. you could equally and maybe more so argue that it means he just had little experience.. you know the guys that get coffee for the higher ups

You could but, it still doesn't excuses the fact that he was in the same position not too long ago (btw, this was my original point but it requires reading between the lines). I'm inclined to believe this not what he meant given his own history of coming from nowhere though I could be wrong.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

As if Obama is some f'cking chump from Randolph-Macon College. What exactly is your point?



You could but, it still doesn't excuses the fact that he was in the same position not too long ago (btw, this was my original point but it requires reading between the lines). I'm inclined to believe this not what he meant given his own history of coming from nowhere though I could be wrong.

So . . . . Why are you talking shit about Randy-Mac?