Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. Eagles)

[diehardskin2982]

smootsmack what is the rumors off a change in our front office? will there be a exstensive search or is bruce allen the front runner?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

smootsmack what is the rumors off a change in our front office? will there be a exstensive search or is bruce allen the front runner?

Haven't really asked in the last week or so for any update. But I would say Shanahan is still the front runner, Allen #2

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Haven't really asked in the last week or so for any update. But I would say Shanahan is still the front runner, Allen #2

Reviewing Tamba Bay's history, Allen did a good job of keeping his picks, but it really doesn't look like he did that good of a job in selecting players. Is there some reason to think he'd to a better job here?

On the flip side, I don't like the idea of giving Shanahan total control, either.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Reviewing Tamba Bay's history, Allen did a good job of keeping his picks, but it really doesn't look like he did that good of a job in selecting players. Is there some reason to think he'd to a better job here?

On the flip side, I don't like the idea of giving Shanahan total control, either.

I don't know that Allen would do a great job here. Just saying I think he's probably a strong candidate to come here. He and Snyder are pretty tight...which is probably the last thing we need. I could even see potentially see Allen being named President and someone else being a GM under him.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know that Allen would do a great job here. Just saying I think he's probably a strong candidate to come here. He and Snyder are pretty tight...which is probably the last thing we need. I could even see potentially see Allen being named President and someone else being a GM under him.

wow! this offseason is going to be more interesting than the season!

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

wow! this offseason is going to be more interesting than the season!

Generally that is the case with Redskins football under Synder.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know that Allen would do a great job here. Just saying I think he's probably a strong candidate to come here. He and Snyder are pretty tight...which is probably the last thing we need. I could even see potentially see Allen being named President and someone else being a GM under him.

Now that would be interesting... but would Allen even want that kind of job or would he want to be more involved in player selection? The one thing I don't want is a Coach/GM. Now, I don't have your sources, but one would think that all the big name coaches out there (Cowher, Shanahan, Gruden, Holmgren) recognize the value of having a GM. I think what they would want is to be hired as HC and then selecting the guy they wanted to be GM (Cowher might want to bring in marty, Gruden might want to bring in Allen, etc.) To a large degree, i see 2010 as being a "coaches market." There are A LOT of teams who may be competing for one of "The Big 4" and the Big 4 coachs have such strong resumes that should have no problem finding a team/owner that will allow them to dictate the front front-office structure, not the other way around.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Now that would be interesting... but would Allen even want that kind of job or would he want to be more involved in player selection? The one thing I don't want is a Coach/GM. Now, I don't have your sources, but one would think that all the big name coaches out there (Cowher, Shanahan, Gruden, Holmgren) recognize the value of having a GM. I think what they would want is to be hired as HC and then selecting the guy they wanted to be GM (Cowher might want to bring in marty, Gruden might want to bring in Allen, etc.) To a large degree, i see 2010 as being a "coaches market." There are A LOT of teams who may be competing for one of "The Big 4" and the Big 4 coachs have such strong resumes that should have no problem finding a team/owner that will allow them to dictate the front front-office structure, not the other way around.

Well Shanahan and probably Holmgren would want to be their own GMs. Cowher I think is less than 50% likely to even return to the NFL next season, that's just my gut feeling though.

I had heard that Gruden and Allen had issues with each other during their time in Tampa and would go their separate ways if/when they returned to the NFL. But seeing how up close how they interact they really seem like the perfect team. Not meaning the perfect team for the Redskins necessarily.

Anyhow, as for Allen I think even in a President role he would still have some input over the player selection. But we could also see Allen as General Manager and Gruden as head coach but it would be like Philly where Reid is the HC, and Tom Heckert is the GM but in reality Reid is the one selecting the players. Heckert just manages the process

Allen makes sense for the fans because

1. He has front office experience
2. He has a link, albeit tangentially, to the Redskins through his dad
3. He's not Vinny

Allen makes sense for Snyder because

1. He has front office experience
2. He has a link, albeit tangentially, to the Redskins through his dad
3. He and Snyder are pretty tight and Snyder could still be involved in the whole process