Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team

[skinsfan69]

Snyder and his butt boy are really getting ripped pretty bad this week. Steve Largent, Merril Hodge, John Cooke, Largent, Rich Gannon....I'm sure there are some more. We've seriously got a younger version of Al Davis running the team. You'd figure Snyder would get it after working w/ Gibbs for 4 years.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder and his butt boy are really getting ripped pretty bad this week. Steve Largent, Merril Hodge, John Cooke, Largent, Rich Gannon....I'm sure there are some more. We've seriously got a younger version of Al Davis running the team. You'd figure Snyder would get it after working w/ Gibbs for 4 years.

Hint: Gibbs was Danny's butt boy too. He didn't run things much more than Zorn does. Far too deferential.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Hint: Gibbs was Danny's butt boy too. He didn't run things much more than Zorn does. Far too deferential.

Gibbs was deferential to Williams and Saunders. He entrusted the D to Williams and the O to Saunders. Both turned out to be poor talent evaluators and it cost the franchise dearly(Lloyd, ARE, Arch).

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Largent and Zorn have been good friends for 30 years, what else was he going to say. No problem with Largent defending Zorn, but he may want to look at some game tape before absolving Zorn of all blame for this mess.

[SFREDSKIN]

We should read the part that is bolded out:

Among Largent's comments earlier in the day to KJR radio in Seattle:

-- "I don't know what a 'Dan Snyder coach' looks like, and I don't think Dan Snyder knows what a 'Dan Snyder coach' looks like. And that's fairly obvious now ahat he's been through about six head coaches in 10 years."

-- "The problem is Jim was hired as an offensive coordinator, by the way, not as a head coach, and then promoted to head coach the same offseason. And yet the coaching position that Jim was given, he was told who his coaches were going to be, he was told who his players were going to be. He didn't have any opportunities to go and seek and find players or coaches that he wanted to fill out on the team - with a couple of exceptions. He hired Sherman Smith and Stump Mitchell, those are the only two guys he hired when he came in his first year. He inherited everything he has to work with today, yet all the blame is being laid at his feet because he can't make them a Super Bowl champion. I could've told you two years ago, they don't have a Super Bowl-quality team. It doesn't matter how good a coach you are; you're not going to get there with the players the owners gives you."

-- "The formula that the Redskin owner and the Redskin general manager have for producing a winner on the field is not a winning formula, meaning they can't make all the decisions on the coaches and on the personnel and then just hire some guy from off the street to be head coach and win with what they put on the field. It doesn't work and that's been proven for 10 years in a row. And they had Joe Gibbs in here, a guy who went to many Super Bowls and he couldn't do it with the formula they gave him."

-- "The failure of the Redskins is not about Jim Zorn; the faiure of the Redskins starts above him, above his level. I tell you,

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

We should read the part that is bolded out:

Among Largent's comments earlier in the day to KJR radio in Seattle:

-- "I don't know what a 'Dan Snyder coach' looks like, and I don't think Dan Snyder knows what a 'Dan Snyder coach' looks like. And that's fairly obvious now ahat he's been through about six head coaches in 10 years."

-- "The problem is Jim was hired as an offensive coordinator, by the way, not as a head coach, and then promoted to head coach the same offseason. And yet the coaching position that Jim was given, he was told who his coaches were going to be, he was told who his players were going to be. He didn't have any opportunities to go and seek and find players or coaches that he wanted to fill out on the team - with a couple of exceptions. He hired Sherman Smith and Stump Mitchell, those are the only two guys he hired when he came in his first year. He inherited everything he has to work with today, yet all the blame is being laid at his feet because he can't make them a Super Bowl champion. I could've told you two years ago, they don't have a Super Bowl-quality team. It doesn't matter how good a coach you are; you're not going to get there with the players the owners gives you."

-- "The formula that the Redskin owner and the Redskin general manager have for producing a winner on the field is not a winning formula, meaning they can't make all the decisions on the coaches and on the personnel and then just hire some guy from off the street to be head coach and win with what they put on the field. It doesn't work and that's been proven for 10 years in a row. And they had Joe Gibbs in here, a guy who went to many Super Bowls and he couldn't do it with the formula they gave him."

-- "The failure of the Redskins is not about Jim Zorn; the faiure of the Redskins starts above him, above his level. I tell you,

Well he also brought in Chris Meidt and Scott Wachenheim. And he was around for the last two off-seasons. And if not for his insistence, it's not likely Campbell would have been our starter this year. Other coaches have won with talent they didn't bring in so Zorn shouldn't be absolved of any blame here.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Gibbs was deferential to Williams and Saunders. He entrusted the D to Williams and the O to Saunders. Both turned out to be poor talent evaluators and it cost the franchise dearly(Lloyd, ARE, Arch).

Gregg may be poor evaluator, but he still managed to create good defense afterwards.. Of course, there were some times when we got shredded, mostly due to good players; Wesbrooks, Barber, TO and such.. But we always were in top 10..

Edit: You can see how good Saints are now, due to Gregg.. Imagine if we had good offense during his era at here, I wonder what would happen..

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Gregg may be poor evaluator, but he still managed to create good defense afterwards.. Of course, there were some times when we got shredded, mostly due to good players; Wesbrooks, Barber, TO and such.. But we always were in top 10..

Edit: You can see how good Saints are now, due to Gregg.. Imagine if we had good offense during his era at here, I wonder what would happen..

Williams has had his ups and downs, his stint in Jax wasn't so good.

My point was that Gibbs made this call to sign Arch because of GW, then told Snyderatto what to do, they simply executed what Gibbs said. Gibbs was certainly no "butt boy" to Snyder. If anything, Snyder worshiped the ground Gibbs walked on.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Williams has had his ups and downs, his stint in Jax wasn't so good.

My point was that Gibbs made this call to sign Arch because of GW, then told Snyderatto what to do, they simply executed what Gibbs said. Gibbs was certainly no "butt boy" to Snyder. If anything, Snyder worshiped the ground Gibbs walked on.

True, Gregg didn't do good in Jax.. But other than the stint at Jax and the Redskins 2006, he did pretty good with his defense.. I just discovered something through wikipedia.com, Sean Payton voluntary took 250,000 dollars pay cut, in order to get Gregg to come to Saints.. That says something..

As for Gibbs and Snyderatto, I have no comment.. I have no idea what's going on in that organization, just like most of us.. I have been huge fan of Redskins since 2004.. I wasn't crazy about football until that year when I started playing football for high school, and my family always have rooted for Skins.. So I started to root for Skins, but then next thing I knew, I fell in love with Redskins, you could say that I'm becoming obsessed with Redskins stuff.. I never have really felt that low about this; I wasn't really aware of Redskins' seasons before 2004.. Obviously, we know who's responsible for stuff and such but I just don't see any point of complaining and pointing fingers at people..

[OptimalOne]

Snyder tries his best to be the next best thing to Jimmy Jones and Marty Schot, but without the knowledge of the game and faith in personnel.

This is another GRAND example of how thinking and managing short-term will get NO long term results. (ie Hiring Gibbs to fill seats).


- "So good, I'm the best....That's why I'm OPTIMAL".

[Kalisto2010]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Williams has had his ups and downs, his stint in Jax wasn't so good.

Gibbs was certainly no "butt boy" to Snyder. If anything, Snyder worshiped the ground Gibbs walked on.

Correct. He made Gibbs the team President - Gibbs could sign anyone he wanted.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder and his butt boy are really getting ripped pretty bad this week. Steve Largent, Merril Hodge, John Cooke, Largent, Rich Gannon....I'm sure there are some more. We've seriously got a younger version of Al Davis running the team. You'd figure Snyder would get it after working w/ Gibbs for 4 years.

Name one thing that Dan Snyder should have learned from Gibbs 2.0?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Name one thing that Dan Snyder should have learned from Gibbs 2.0?

Always fight your guts out!

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Always fight your guts out!

That's almost as famous as Jim Zorn saying the offense is "close"

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

That's almost as famous as Jim Zorn saying the offense is "close"

He didn't say close to what though, I asume he meant disaster.