Seems like Cutler might be available.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So let me get this straight, you people want to...

Not sure youre responding to alot of people, seems like just me, lol.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

- Trade away our #13th pick for another player (after everyone bitches and whines about the FO trading away picks and not "building through the draft"), because I'm sure we'd be losing this pick in some sort of trade.

Quarterbacks of Cutlers pedigree almost never make it to free agency. Cutler was drafted with the 12th overall pick in 2006. Cutler is worth two-first rounders, minimum. Trading the 13th overall pick and Campbell and a mediocre player like Horton (hypothetically) for Cutler would be the bargain of the centurey. Quarterback is one position where is universally agreed that you break the "rules" for - if you need a QB and theres a young pro-bowl quarterback out there, you go get him.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

- Trade for a player who has caused a PR nightmare for his team and probably the reason why it is not seen as a big deal is b/c he's a QB (if he were a receiver, he'd be compared to TO).

Eli Manning caused a "PR nightmare" for the Chargers and everyones forgotten about that now. QBs are a different type of player in the NFL. Cutler feels screwed over by some 32year old arrogant coach and he demanded a trade. That doesnt even begin to compare with the Crap TO has done. TO has been a lockerroom cancer on every team he's ever been on. Cutler is loved by his teammates - the beef in Denver is between Cutler and management - nothing else.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

- Disrupt the continuity of having our current QB with the same coach and offense, something that hasn't happened in a while (don't tell me the Gibbs and Saunders had the same system).

Even if you foolishly think Gibbs and Saunders systems were incredibly dissimilar, the fact remains Jason Campell had two full years in Saunders system-one that suited his talents. JC failed in that system after two years. Why does everyone forget that fact?

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

- Completely disregard JCs performance during the first 8 games when he had a working line and a healthy CP..

JC had a far superior line and better running back situation in Saunders system for two years... youre forgetting about THAT.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

- Officially putting Zorn on a short leash, since bringing Cutler here would give us the whole "when is Shanahan getting hired" talk all season.

What has Zorn done to prove he shouldnt be on a short leash? This isnt the 80s and 90s where teams give quarterbacks and coaches a minimum of 3 years to get going. Teams all around the league are having success with new coaches and quarterbacks in one season. Of all the rookie head coaches last year, Zorn was the worst. Every year, teams like the Ravens, Dolhphins, and Falcons, show a new QB and coach can turn a team around. Yet here everyone feels Campbell somehow deserves all this patience - Campbells last chance should have been in 2007. We foolishly gave him another year last year. Zorn needs to take this team to the playoffs this year or he SHOULD be demoted or fired.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Once again, I don't know why continuity for more than one or two seasons is undervalued. The only way we should bring someone like Cutler would be if the team decided to completely blow up the team, which that hasn't happened.

Why do people keep speaking of continuity as if its some inherantly good thing? Continuity is not good for continuitys sake, just like Change isnt good just for the sake of change. Continuity is only a good thing if what is being continued is also good. Campbell has overextended his stay in Washington. I'm not saying Jay Cutler is the one and only answer to us - but he would be a dramatic improvement over Campbell and he's someone who Zorn could take to greater heights than Campbell could ever dream of. That said, Zorns going to have to pull off a miracle to be the coach of this team in 2010.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Not sure youre responding to alot of people, seems like just me, lol.


Quarterbacks of Cutlers pedigree almost never make it to free agency. Cutler was drafted with the 12th overall pick in 2006. Cutler is worth two-first rounders, minimum. Trading the 13th overall pick and Campbell and a mediocre player like Horton (hypothetically) for Cutler would be the bargain of the centurey.

HA!

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA

you mean a losing record, no playoff appearances and a high int %? I think you like cutler more than any bronco's fan i've ever met.

when drew brees was available - that's the guy you break the bank on. not a whiny QB that'd only be slightly better. once again, he's not bringing his WRs with him. or his OL. we don't have the money, especially if you're talking about trading away cap hit players, and he's not worth 2 first round picks AND players.

that's beyond stupid.

If you're going to sell the franchise on one player, can we at least make sure he's good before wasting 4000 pages discussing him?

I get it, you hate our QB, but saying cutler's a better fit makes me wonder if someone's paying attention - zorn is big on discipline and cutler gambles a LOT.

how many broncos games did you watch in full last season? just curious.