Clinton Portis on the JT Show

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

No, but there is ways about doing things...I wouldnt broadcast it and try to make my boss look dumb.....thats a total lack of respect...if you dont respect the person, you still should respect the position

Ok so while your being demoted and the boss has not come to you about why he demoted you or even spoken to you as to why he gave your job to someone who you beat out for the job and then goes on TV and says "well, he wasn't in the meetings, and we felt the other guy would provide us with the best result." Knowing full well you were at all the meetings just were not able to participate for what ever reason medically you would not have a problem with it? and lets say while your ticked off about it the media walks up to you and says "hey how do you feel about your boss saying this about you" your going to react.

As much as Portis was wrong for airing his feelings....so was Zorn. If your going to say Portis shut your trap then you have to tell the coach the same thing cause he's doing the same thing.

[Jake2008]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok so while your being demoted and the boss has not come to you about why he demoted you or even spoken to you as to why he gave your job to someone who you beat out for the job and then goes on TV and says "well, he wasn't in the meetings, and we felt the other guy would provide us with the best result." Knowing full well you were at all the meetings just were not able to participate for what ever reason medically you would not have a problem with it? and lets say while your ticked off about it the media walks up to you and says "hey how do you feel about your boss saying this about you" your going to react.

As much as Portis was wrong for airing his feelings....so was Zorn. If your going to say Portis shut your trap then you have to tell the coach the same thing cause he's doing the same thing.

I disagree. The Coach is your boss. He can say what he wants. You are getting paid to play and if you don't like it then quit. If you can't handle it, then find a different occupation. And I still don't see what Zorn said in the statement above that was so bad.

And how do you know that Portis was in all the meetings? Because Portis says so?

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok so while your being demoted and the boss has not come to you about why he demoted you or even spoken to you as to why he gave your job to someone who you beat out for the job and then goes on TV and says "well, he wasn't in the meetings, and we felt the other guy would provide us with the best result." Knowing full well you were at all the meetings just were not able to participate for what ever reason medically you would not have a problem with it? and lets say while your ticked off about it the media walks up to you and says "hey how do you feel about your boss saying this about you" your going to react.

As much as Portis was wrong for airing his feelings....so was Zorn. If your going to say Portis shut your trap then you have to tell the coach the same thing cause he's doing the same thing.

All i thought was that Zorn was stating the facts. Portis needs to stop acting like a deprived diva

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

So if your boss decided to demote you for a little while, you wouldn't wanna know why he thought you weren't good enough? Because from your logic, you should willingly just sit there and take it.

In truth non of us know what really transpired beyond what we saw in the game, or heard in the int's afterward (and that stuff is generally sterilized). I suspect JZ is guilty of non-communication, which may have been his way of putting CP in his place? I don't know.
HOWEVER, what is definately not "hoyle" is calling out anything or anybody regarding the team in the public. Never is that ok. that makes you T.O. ish, Ocho Cinco........not good form Clinton

[vallin21]

Synder will allow Portis to say whatever he wants. Portis has equal power as if (or not more) than the Head Coach and he knows it. Memo to Future HC's Portis is the wrong person to piss off on the Redskins

[Jake2008]

Bottom line anyone that thinks it is ok for Portis to do what he did should never come down on TO or Ocho for the stuff they do either. Portis was being petty and acting just like those guys do. Like I said before, if this was TO doing this I bet almost everyone here would be calling him a whiner and loser and saying how glad they are he isn't a Redskin. Players should never do crap like that. If you have a problem then go to the coaches or the FO, but don't get whining and complaining to the media.

Unless I missed something, what was it that Zorn said about Portis that was derogatory?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Jake2008

Bottom line anyone that thinks it is ok for Portis to do what he did should never come down on TO or Ocho for the stuff they do either. Portis was being petty and acting just like those guys do. Like I said before, if this was TO doing this I bet almost everyone here would be calling him a whiner and loser and saying how glad they are he isn't a Redskin. Players should never do crap like that. If you have a problem then go to the coaches or the FO, but don't get whining and complaining to the media.

Unless I missed something, what was it that Zorn said about Portis that was derogatory?

true

[over the mountain]

^^^ yeah im starting to wish Cp wouldnt go on the JT show anymore. he always talks himself into trouble.

in '06 did he bash gibbs on the same leadership & communications issues on JT's show?

did he throw the oline under the bus on the JT show earlier this year?

obviously he had his blow up with b mitch on the show, that one i know for certain.

now he bashes zorn for leadership and communication issues on the JT show.

water under the bridge really, just portis playing to that underappreciated "i think im the best rb in the league" persona he has as others have said here.

when TO tries to play offensive coordinator in the media hes a team cancer, when Cp does it hes just telling it like it is . . . portis isnt paid to be a PR rep for the skins, hes paid to run a pig skin into a bunch of pissed off psychos. lol we have soo much drama when a losing streak hits.

[GTripp0012]

I mean, I have to point out that Portis missed at least two blocks against the Giants that could have turned the game around in our favor, so when Zorn says that he felt Betts was better prepared against the Ravens, I'm inclined to believe him.

Why is it that whenever anyone tries to trust Ladell Betts, people on both the inside and the outside get really pissed off?

[GTripp0012]

Portis is also implying, I think, that Zorn's protection schemes are too numerous and complicated. Which is fine for him to think that, but that's kinda evidence to support Zorn's reasoning for keeping Portis out of the game when all the Skins were going to do was throw. Because if Portis thinks that Zorn's schemes are unnecessarily complicated, that probably does mean that Betts has a better understanding of them.

[skinsqc]

Are problem is at quaterback. same team last year struggling to win there was 1 plAYER CHanged after the bears game ,offense started scoring points went on a 5 game winning streak and made the playoffs.Colt brennan will be the starter next year i hope.

[53Fan]

So Portis has earned the right to be selfish and be a distraction to the team now? Give me a freakin break. It's not about Portis it's about the TEAM. Anyone else pulls the shit he does they're riding the pine until they're shipped out. Portis is a warrior but he'll throw his teammates or coach under the bus if he does'nt feel like he's getting enough attention. I love the way the guy plays but undermining the coaches decisions and authority in public is hardly contributing to the success of the team. He seems to forget that we did pretty well without him when he was hurt a couple of years ago and Betts took his place. He's a great player but he's not indispensable. I'd like to see what we could get for him in trade while he's hot to be honest. He's been treated like a prima donna since he's been here and he probably has less to complain about than any other player. We laugh at T.O. when he pulls this kind of crap and it's okay for Portis? Get real.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I'd like to see what we could get for him in trade while he's hot to be honest.

Well, one thing we could get is $13 million in deadcap.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, one thing we could get is $13 million in deadcap.

Well obviously I wasn't speaking of just releasing him. I would be curious to see what OFFERS we would get.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, one thing we could get is $13 million in deadcap.

And we know what that means.

Not gonna happen.