Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[onlydarksets]

Skill positions also reduce the workload of the O-line. If the D has to respect two receivers plus possibly another coming off the line (TE) and a fourth checkdown option, they can't stack the box every single play.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why does trading one pick this year mean we can't address our needs?

We will likely be drafting a WR anyway, and what rookie WR out there would be able to give us the kind of production that someone like Johnson could give us?

I'd rather see us use our picks to gain depth at key areas and build a foundation where we have guys ready to go should we lose a starter or two to injury. Right now, because we focus so much on names, when a guy goes down, there's hardly anyone on the roster to fill the position and we have to rely on the waiver wire.

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Skill positions also reduce the workload of the O-line. If the D has to respect two receivers plus possibly another coming off the line (TE) and a fourth checkdown option, they can't stack the box every single play.

But, if that o-line isn't blocking well to begin with, it would negate any effective running game and prevent JC from having time to even get to that fourth checkdown option. We need to groom our own talent instead of going after players in their '30s.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by KB24

I'd rather see us use our picks to gain depth at key areas and build a foundation where we have guys ready to go should we lose a starter or two to injury. Right now, because we focus so much on names, when a guy goes down, there's hardly anyone on the roster to fill the position and we have to rely on the waiver wire.

A direct result of that this past season was that we were using Lorenzo Alexander as a pulling guard late in the season because he was the most effective pulling blocker we had on the roster.

Lorenzo Alexander is an undrafted rookie Defensive Tackle and we used him to fill a hole in our offense. The guy is an undrafted rookie that plays defense and he was the best product that we came up with to pull block on offense?

The depth on both sides of the ball is pathetic.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

A direct result of that this past season was that we were using Lorenzo Alexander as a pulling guard late in the season because he was the most effective pulling blocker we had on the roster.

Lorenzo Alexander is an undrafted rookie Defensive Tackle and we used him to fill a hole in our offense. The guy is an undrafted rookie that plays defense and he was the best product that we came up with to pull block on offense?

The depth on both sides of the ball is pathetic.

And to piggyback on that, there were times where we had to use Chris Cooley as an extra blocker -- because the line was ineffective -- instead of getting him out into the secondary where he needs to be.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by KB24

And to piggyback on that, there were times where we had to use Chris Cooley as an extra blocker -- because the line was ineffective -- instead of getting him out into the secondary where he needs to be.

So the answer to that problem would be to select a backup first round offensive lineman?! What a waste of a first round pick!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by jdlea

So the answer to that problem would be to select a backup first round offensive lineman?! What a waste of a first round pick!

If we could get Albert, Chris Williams or Jeff Otah in the 1st, we'd be investing in a future franchise left tackle, something that is highly valued by teams. The tuna just signed one w/the 1st overall pick.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

If we could get Albert, Chris Williams or Jeff Otah in the 1st, we'd be investing in a future franchise left tackle, something that is highly valued by teams. The tuna just signed one w/the 1st overall pick.

Not a one of them will fall to the 21st pick. We could possibly get Gosder Cherilus, but drafting a tackle to sit is a waste. A first round pick should be able to step in and make an impact, unless they're a QB. AND Jake Long is gonna play in Week 1.

Furthermore: If we're going to sit a tackle that we selected in the first round, why don't we get one in the 2nd or 3rd and let him develop? Or let Heyer develop?

[KB24]

Originally Posted by jdlea

So the answer to that problem would be to select a backup first round offensive lineman?! What a waste of a first round pick!

You could go with a guard who could spell Kendall and his arthritic knees or Thomas when he has his annual season-ending injury. Or you could get a pass-rusher to complement Andre Carter and take pressure off an offensive unit whose line has those age and injury problems with only one back-up.

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

Not talking about the cap ramifications (I agree with Schneeds assessment), the trade absolutely makes sense. We would get first round talent for a first round pick. So the question is whether or not adding a third round pick is appropriate for a guarantee of attaining a pro-bowl caliber player with your first round pick.



I'll take that all day long.

What's the point of bringing in an elite wide receiver if the offense can neither run the ball nor give JC adequate protection when needed?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jdlea

So the answer to that problem would be to select a backup first round offensive lineman?! What a waste of a first round pick!

I'd venture to guess that less than 20% of late 1st round draft picks make a meaningful impact in their rookie seasons. If you want an impact rookie with the 21st pick, be prepared to be disappointed.