Greg Blache stands up to Cerrato and Synder...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Every time I worry that Redskins fans are among the most ignorant in all of sports...Giantone comes along to remind me otherwise

You know he was just joking about the "LaVar told me..." don't you?

OK, so it wasn't just me

[MTK]

You mean Snyder really doesn't run the team with his Madden franchise?

How is he going to set the prices for hot dogs and foam fingers?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You mean Snyder really doesn't run the team with his Madden franchise?

How is he going to set the prices for hot dogs and foam fingers?

don't forget life-like robotic crabs and model Air Force jets

[Dirtbag59]

Maybe this barely under the cap thing is a good thing. Over the past few years its forced Cerato and Synder to go after quality Free-Agents at modest prices (Fletcher and Smoot) as well as forcing us to focus on the draft. Also the idea of bringing in Drayton Florance at CB and DJ Hacket at WR seems like a pretty solid FA class to me.

[Hog's Breath]

It's not like we're the only team in the league that makes poor FA moves. Sometimes you bring a guy in and for some reason or another it just doesn't work out. My only gripe( and it would be a small one) is we have given up too much for players in the past.

However, after last year's offseason, I have full confidence Vinny and Snyder will get the job done again.

[SmootSmack]

I don't think you get the point still, but that's fine. You are how you are. Good luck to you.

[JoeRedskin]

SC -

Jeff George, Bruce Smith?? Yes. Bad moves both BUT how many years ago? Long enough for Smith to retire and become eligible for the HOF (Okay, so that will still be another year). Long enough for the team that won the SB with Johnson to cut him, another team to cut him and a third to use him as a back-up.

As for Ramsey, at the time it was made, tell me why was it such a bad move. He was the third rated QB in the draft, we had no one in place as a long term answer, AND we traded down twice and picked up two additional draft picks before picking him.

I've done the analysis in other threads: Picking QB's is historically a low percentage deal (hell the two picked ahead of Ramsey are hanging onto there football life by a thread).

What about recent picks: Sean Taylor, Landry, Rogers, McCintosh, Cooley, Campbell Golston, Blades, Montgomery?

What about recent FA pick-ups: Springs, Rabach, Smoot?

Seriously - Tell me a front office outside of Boston that hits everytime with every pick.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Seriously - Tell me a front office outside of Boston that hits everytime with every pick.

philly, except they don't draft for special teams (at all), so they usually aren't very good there. line depth is usually pretty deep though.

[QBall]

I have nothing but confidence in Snyder, Cerrato, Zorn, and Blanche making the best picks, trades, and or free agent signings for this year. We are going to be a very good team in 08' and I see a nice draft coming.

No way Zorn is a yes man and we already know Blanche isn't!

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by That Guy

philly, except they don't draft for special teams (at all), so they usually aren't very good there. line depth is usually pretty deep though.

I dunno, I don't think they hit on every pick. It's just that they have so many picks that they take enough shots some are bound to hit. Recently, Broderick Bunkley and W. Justice are not looking to good.

They had a phenomenal 2002 draft: Lito Shepard, Michael Lewis (now with SF) Sheldon Brown and Bryant Westbrook. But since then they have had their fair share of misses. At the same time, they have had 51 picks since 2002 (including 2002) and of those 20 have been in the first three rounds. I would humbly suggest that our FO, with that many picks would have as many if not more, hits than the philly has had.

NFL Draft History: Full Draft - by Team

Of course, our FO's practices are the reason that over the same period of time 34 picks and only 12 in the first three rounds.

NFL Draft History: Full Draft - by Team

[That Guy]

i think bruce smith may have been danny's dad's influence, not that that's any better. ramsey was a great pick, if we had taken the AO trade from chicago, which we didn't :/.

and spurrier did pretty much says he didn't want to spend the time learning personnel, or studying defenses, or practicing, or doing anything else that might hurt his golf game.

either way, there have been a lot of bad decisions, but last year was pretty good, and hopefully we have more of those and less lloyd/arch type deals. I think maybe the lessons are finally learned, but we'll have to wait and see.

my bet is hackett is the WR because now there's a new value in our FO on familiarity, as seen with GW's defensive picks (fletcher, prioleau, jerry gray, danny smith, etc).

[SmootSmack]

Pepper Rodgers and Gerald Snyder (and I think to some extent Mort Zuckerman) played a big, big role in the Redskins transactions back in early 2000s. This is not to say that Dan Snyder was just sitting around (like John Kent Cooke) used to. And Norv certainly wasn't in Jeff George's camp.

But none of that really has any bearing now. We have seen since 2001 that Snyder (Dan Snyder) has shown he absolutely listens to his coaches and gives them what they want. He completely stepped aside in 2001 and gave Marty full control. When he became part of the process again in 2002 he largely deferred to the coaches and VC on personnel decision (hence all the Gators that joined us), and of course then came Gibbs II.