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Old 02-20-2008, 09:16 PM   #1
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

williams for a 2nd is a decent idea... lets trade lloyd for a 5th.... HAHAHA *SMH*
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:37 PM   #2
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

he wouldn't make a huge impact on our passing offense. not really a huge upgrade on either starting spot.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:24 AM   #3
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he wouldn't make a huge impact on our passing offense. not really a huge upgrade on either starting spot.
Impact won't be huge, and the paycheck won't be huge.

It would have the following subtle impacts:
  • Give JC a big target aside from Cooley and Sellers in the RZ. We'd actually have a WR capable of running a fade, forcing DBs to respect that route in the red zone.
  • Reduce the burden on ARE, allowing him to move to the slot more, hopefully allowing him to find more space to run after the catch.
  • Give us the 3rd WR option that Lloyd was supposed to provide us.
  • Assuming we keep Caldwell, would actually give us a 4-WR package that's worth a darn.
  • Avoid the typical 3-year learning curve that comes with drafting a WR.
Johnson or Hackett would do similar things for us, with a better learning curve with Hackett.
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And did I mention that he (or Hackett) would add key depth for when Santana Moss will inevitably miss a few games.
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Bryant Johnson would be a great pick up for our team. I know he doesn't have huge stats but he was stuck behind Bolden and Fitz in Arizona. Everytime there was an injury he filled in more than adequetly. He has great hands, he goes across the middle, he can leap, good size, he's young, he knows the west coast system (denny green era), he wouldn't demand a huge contract, and it would free up another draft pick. I know I am going to get called a homer cause he is a Nittany Lion but he was a great college player and would really fill a need for our team.
What he did in college has nothing to do with professional football. He just hasn't shown enough to deserve a big contract. We already paid big $ to ARE and Lloyd and both have never ever shown anything to deserve it. I hope our FO is real careful chasing FA Wr's. But you know someone that has some $ to spend is going to overpay him. I hope it's not us.
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What he did in college has nothing to do with professional football. He just hasn't shown enough to deserve a big contract. We already paid big $ to ARE and Lloyd and both have never ever shown anything to deserve it. I hope our FO is real careful chasing FA Wr's. But you know someone that has some $ to spend is going to overpay him. I hope it's not us.
I would agree that we overpaid for Lloyd because he hasn't done anything more than James Thrash has.

But the ARE contract, $10 million bonus, is about right for a #2 WR these days. I would disagree with the notion that we're not getting our money's worth from him.
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I would agree that we overpaid for Lloyd because he hasn't done anything more than James Thrash has.

But the ARE contract, $10 million bonus, is about right for a #2 WR these days. I would disagree with the notion that we're not getting our money's worth from him.
I would say in general we haven't got enough production out of all the wr's the last two years.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:49 PM   #8
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

700 yards for a number two isn't bad... but 200 from lloyd in 06 is awful.... I would definately say we're getting our moneys worth for Randle El.. this is only his second year being a true wr and he improved dramatically from 06.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:50 PM   #9
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Granted 194 of them came in the first game against miami, but still..
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I would say in general we haven't got enough production out of all the wr's the last two years.
OK, then that's really an indictment of Brandon Lloyd more than anything, and to some extent Santana Moss. But unless you're alleging Bryant Johnson is going to be another Brandon Lloyd, that's no reason not to sign him.

I just don't get your point, it's not making any sense. What are you suggesting the Skins do about it?
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OK, then that's really an indictment of Brandon Lloyd more than anything, and to some extent Santana Moss. But unless you're alleging Bryant Johnson is going to be another Brandon Lloyd, that's no reason not to sign him.

I just don't get your point, it's not making any sense. What are you suggesting the Skins do about it?
My point is this. For two straight years SM has been somewhat average to below average. Lloyd has been a complete 100% bust. ARE has barely over 1,000 yards receiving in two years. So why go out and sign ANOTHER FA WR that is unproven? If we're going to go the FA route to find yet another WR, I'd just rather go out and get a guy that WE KNOW once he gets on the field he's going to PRODUCE. I can't say that about B. Johnson or Earnest Wilford. Why bother chasing guys that we might already have?
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:55 AM   #12
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

I like Bryant Johnson. I think he's ready to step up his game. I also like D.J. Hackett too. Attitude and productivity goes a long way. Randle El;s game is a testament to that.
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

You know what? Screw Bryant Johnson! He's just another number in a long line of jackass's that played high school ball in Maryland and then left to go to college out of state. I would include Carmelo with the Yellow, but he grew up in New York so I can't blame him for Syracuse.

Thats right Kevin Durant, I'm talking about you (Born in DC, went to High School in Rockville) and you go to TEXAS?!! Who's in Texas? At least settle for Georgetown. GD. I'm also talking to you AJ Wallace. Derrick Williams. Derrick Harvey. Victtor Abiamiri! Lamaar Thomas! Joe Haden! Anthony McCalin! Tywon Lawson! Uche Echefu!
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You know what? Screw Bryant Johnson! He's just another number in a long line of jackass's that played high school ball in Maryland and then left to go to college out of state. I would include Carmelo with the Yellow, but he grew up in New York so I can't blame him for Syracuse.

Thats right Kevin Durant, I'm talking about you (Born in DC, went to High School in Rockville) and you go to TEXAS?!! Who's in Texas? At least settle for Georgetown. GD. I'm also talking to you AJ Wallace. Derrick Williams. Derrick Harvey. Victtor Abiamiri! Lamaar Thomas! Joe Haden! Anthony McCalin! Tywon Lawson! Uche Echefu!
Are serious?!?!
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:33 AM   #15
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

rather have hackett. he's a better player. really rather have roy williams or CJ but being realistic, hackett or berrian are probably the best available, and zorn knows enough about one of them to make an informed decision immediately.
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