Excellent Game............

[DSNYderville]

Hey, I'm new to this forum - but I think the problem starts with the Team Owner. Dan Snyder may have been a fan as a kid, but he has created a marketing platform, whilst destroying The Redskins (and for that matter, many other NFL teams that follow his lead). Too bad we can't trade the owner. Until he's gone, the Skins will remain: lot's of Sizzle, NO STEAK.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DSNYderville

Hey, I'm new to this forum - but I think the problem starts with the Team Owner. Dan Snyder may have been a fan as a kid, but he has created a marketing platform, whilst destroying The Redskins (and for that matter, many other NFL teams that follow his lead). Too bad we can't trade the owner. Until he's gone, the Skins will remain: lot's of Sizzle, NO STEAK.

WTF does Snyder have to do with what happened on the field?? Nothing.

[DSNYderville]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

WTF does Snyder have to do with what happened on the field?? Nothing.

I guess the best comparison for you would be Mr. Steinbrenner & NY Yankees. He's similar to "The Danny", except (& it took a long time) - he learned from his mistakes. Owners can affect team play, on the field.

Haven't you heard? Snyder's been our general manager - ever since he bought the team in 1999 - our ticket prices have skyrocketed, and the team has become mediocre: a revolving door of players & coaches. Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Adam Archuleta, Jeff George...there are many more silly trades. Joe Gibbs came back, under condition of "no meddling" from Daniel - but I'm afraid that deal is unraveling - as of this past Sunday.
Daniel is an impatient, meddling owner. The NY Giants still have Mara family 50% owner. I'm assuming there is more "hands off" stability, including a professional GM, over there.
With a boss like Mr. Snyder, I doubt any coaching staff could consistently succeed on the field.

[Luxorreb]

Originally Posted by DSNYderville

Hey, I'm new to this forum - but I think the problem starts with the Team Owner. Dan Snyder may have been a fan as a kid, but he has created a marketing platform, whilst destroying The Redskins (and for that matter, many other NFL teams that follow his lead). Too bad we can't trade the owner. Until he's gone, the Skins will remain: lot's of Sizzle, NO STEAK.

You will probably not be at this site long.

Let's engage.

Owner not the problem.

Gibbs is back.

Wanna talk problems; Tiki quit on Coughlin. Coughlin back next season? Not a chance...

I'll take an owner that brings in a HOF coach over a NYG owner that hires a guy he doesn't even want. And all the players hate. It's frustrating being in the NFC East cause anyone can win any game at anytime any year...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

Wanna talk problems; Tiki quit on Coughlin. Coughlin back next season? Not a chance...

I'll take an owner that brings in a HOF coach over a NYG owner that hires a guy he doesn't even want. And all the players hate. It's frustrating being in the NFC East cause anyone can win any game at anytime any year...

.......ok and this has what to do with the game Sunday?

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.......ok and this has what to do with the game Sunday?

Lemme break it down for you:

• DSNYderville said "We lost because of the owner".
• Luxorreb said "No, we lost because of the team. Snyder has finally gotten to the point where he is not making whimsical decisions counter to the team's best interest, unlike Mara and Tisch, who did just that by choosing a marginal coach that the players don't like over one of the best RBs in the league and a locker-room leader."
• Giantone said "What?"

Anyhow, it was not really a "good" game, not just because of the result, but for the reasons pointed out above. The Skins barely showed up in the second half, and it wasn't due solely to the Gints defense (although your D did look better than it had all season).

[Blue Star]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.......ok and this has what to do with the game Sunday?

nothing that was the point. To avoid talking about the loss further.

[DSNYderville]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

You will probably not be at this site long.

Let's engage.

Owner not the problem.

Gibbs is back.

Wanna talk problems; Tiki quit on Coughlin. Coughlin back next season? Not a chance...

I'll take an owner that brings in a HOF coach over a NYG owner that hires a guy he doesn't even want. And all the players hate. It's frustrating being in the NFC East cause anyone can win any game at anytime any year...

Hey, check my reply to skinsfan69 today (9/25) - as long as we've got Snyder: except for occasional flashes in the pan - the team will probably not be consistently successful.
Joe Gibbs came back, alright, but only after a guarantee that "The Danny" would stop messing with the team. I heard it took minority owner Dwight Schar, to get Gibbs to even sit down with Mr. Snyder, in the first place.(Maybe Joe heard some bad stuff from Schottenheimer, &/or, other ex-players, NFL coaches - & wouldn't answer Danny's many phone calls?).

Face it, we probably have a Steinbrenner-type of owner, except Dan Snyder doesn't seem to know much about football. He's been trying to buy a championship team, churning around for 8 years - with very mediocre success. But, he has made mucho dinero off a captive DC fan base - that's a game "The Danny" knows very well. There is only one consistent fact for Skins fans nowadays: price hikes at the gate. I feel sorry for the fans & the team. Too bad we can't trade the owner.

[GMScud]

This is a REDSKINS fan forum, and we have Giant and Cowboy fans arguing back and forth? Can someone put a stop to this? It's not an NFC East forum.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

This is a REDSKINS fan forum, and we have Giant and Cowboy fans arguing back and forth? Can someone put a stop to this? It's not an NFC East forum.

Yeah this thread is one of the worst in a long list of them. Thread locked

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by DSNYderville

Hey, I'm new to this forum - but I think the problem starts with the Team Owner. Dan Snyder may have been a fan as a kid, but he has created a marketing platform, whilst destroying The Redskins (and for that matter, many other NFL teams that follow his lead). Too bad we can't trade the owner. Until he's gone, the Skins will remain: lot's of Sizzle, NO STEAK.

So he buttered the players' gloves at halftime? I was blaming that on Gibbs!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

So he buttered the players' gloves at halftime? I was blaming that on Gibbs!

Where's Brunell in all of this?

He has to be to blame here somehow.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Where's Brunell in all of this?

He has to be to blame here somehow.

I disagree - this has Ramsey written all over it.