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Old 10-15-2006, 06:45 PM   #1
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Re: defense

Today had a lot to do with the defense. However, they've looked bad all year long. News Flash: They're gonna be bad this year. So, you need to plan on putting points on the board. And checking down on 3rd and longs isn't the way to do that.
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Old 10-15-2006, 06:43 PM   #2
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Well look at it this way. The D stopped the Titans late in the game, but if we had had shut down Young and Henry like we should've, and not let them put points on the board we wouldn't have had to rely on M.B. to win the game for us. And lets face it, Brunell doesn't have what it takes to lead us to wins when we need to rely on him anymore. I mean, when there's like 5 minutes left on the clock and we're down by 3, that's the only time the offense really tries to open it up. Through the first 55 minutes they're content to just run the ball and throw screens.
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Old 10-15-2006, 06:52 PM   #3
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With the way our D has been playin all year, the best D is a Good O. We know damn well going into games that the D can't do it. 700 page playbook? RIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTT!
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:05 PM   #4
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Henry owns us. Pathetic.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:06 PM   #5
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Anyone else think some of the defensive players are mailing it in? Holdman? Daniels? Wynn? Rogers? Archuletta?
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:15 PM   #6
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Anyone else think some of the defensive players are mailing it in? Holdman? Daniels? Wynn? Rogers? Archuletta?
Holdman just doesn't have the talent to be a consistent playmaker as a weakside LB. Daniels definitely gives max effort and was our best D lineman on the field today. Wynn is seriously overpaid in my estimation. Rogers is looking lost - I recommend making him nickel back when Springs comes back to build back his confidence. Archuletta is the most overpaid safety in the history of the league, but don't blame him - Gibbs and the Danny gave him millions more than the next closest suitor (Chicago) offered. He gives max effort, but would have trouble covering his own shadow.

The bigger problem is the philosophy of ignoring the draft and building through high priced free agency. There's no cap space to have effective depth, and that's coming home to roost.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:20 PM   #7
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You aint bullshitin' SouperMeister! We have got to change our philosphy on building a winning team. This FA shit Aint workin'. HAIL from Nashville!
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:24 PM   #8
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Archuleta looks worse and worse every game. Whether it's making poor half assed attempts at tackles, or getting burned on the deep ball, we really made a bad move there. I think we should cut our losses with him at the end of the season, because teams are picking on him like crazy and he's not stopping them.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:53 PM   #9
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Archuleta????? How about Carlos Rogers? That guy is one of the worst cover corners in football right now. He is consistently beaten every game and when something is within his grasp he can't catch it. Horrible....and yes he was a draft pick and that didn't work either!!!!

Frustrating, and I am just glad I am not the one that has to try and fix this HUGE mess. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:34 PM   #10
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Rogers has no ball awareness whatsoever right now. Even when his coverage is tight, he never gets his head around in time to make a play on the ball. He still needs alot of work.
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:40 PM   #11
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Griffin being out today hurt bad. Henry ran between the tackles and had too many 8 yard runs on 1st down. Holdman got used and Marshall rarely met Henry at the hole. Amazing how far this defense has fallen off in three years. From top 5 to top 10 to ???(bottom 10?5?)
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Old 10-15-2006, 10:43 PM   #12
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Griffin being out today hurt bad. Henry ran between the tackles and had too many 8 yard runs on 1st down. Holdman got used and Marshall rarely met Henry at the hole. Amazing how far this defense has fallen off in three years. From top 5 to top 10 to ???(bottom 10?5?)
Yep. Not many have mentioned that. Griffin and Salave'a were out today. If anyone still thinks they hit gold with Montgomery and Golston, they need their heads examined.

But SouperMeister said it best -- this is what you get when the front office ignores the defensive line year after year. Throwing together other teams' rejects, has-beens, and a few high priced free agents every two or three years gets you what you saw today.

They seem totally content with signing the Brandon Nobles, the Renaldo Wynns, the Philip Daniels -- eventually, the one guy they were right about, Cornelius Griffin, was going to need help.

Can't stop the run, can't pressure the quarterback, and the secondary can't cover anyone. This was bound to happen.
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Old 10-16-2006, 03:31 AM   #13
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Yep. Not many have mentioned that. Griffin and Salave'a were out today. If anyone still thinks they hit gold with Montgomery and Golston, they need their heads examined.

But SouperMeister said it best -- this is what you get when the front office ignores the defensive line year after year. Throwing together other teams' rejects, has-beens, and a few high priced free agents every two or three years gets you what you saw today.

They seem totally content with signing the Brandon Nobles, the Renaldo Wynns, the Philip Daniels -- eventually, the one guy they were right about, Cornelius Griffin, was going to need help.

Can't stop the run, can't pressure the quarterback, and the secondary can't cover anyone. This was bound to happen.

I mentioned it earlier on a different thread but, your just basically re-hashing the same shit....lol it gets old talking about it....if we lose the next 2-5 games its time to cut our losses and look ahead to next year...period.
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:30 PM   #14
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Williams' blitzes get picked up like a slutty college chick. I've never seen so many white jerseys go crashing in on a blitz only to not see a single one emerge on the other side of the line.

The rest of the NFL has us figured out, plain and simple.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:29 AM   #15
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Maybe THAT'S the problem.

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Williams' blitzes get picked up like a slutty college chick. I've never seen so many white jerseys go crashing in on a blitz only to not see a single one emerge on the other side of the D line.

The rest of the NFL has us figured out, plain and simple.
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