Shawn Springs

Stacks42 · 10-03-2006, 12:25 PM

I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1.

12thMan · 10-03-2006, 12:39 PM

Stack, you can't be serious. Springs is absolutely a team player. Heart? He re-injured the dang thing trying to come back early. So no, I wouldn't question his heart. In fact, I think Springs is one of the cornerstones (no pun intended) of the team. This is an injury if you're not 100%, no questions asked, you'll be back on IR quick. Ask Donovan McNabb.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1.

Have you ever pulled a groin? The man had his reattached!!! That is no simple thing to recover from.... He tried to come back early and strained it again. He has a TON of heart. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking differently

Skins_4_Lyfe · 10-03-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1.

I don't know where to start with this one...Springs will hurt the team more if he suits up and isn't 100%...he is...I can't even get out all my thoughts, I'm too pissed to make any since...I don't believe what I've just read...

Big C · 10-03-2006, 01:02 PM

we deffo need springs back. however, rogers has really stepped it up as of late and kenny wright is doing ok...that being said springs is still our best cb

Stacks42 · 10-03-2006, 01:24 PM

Are you kidding? Look at the facts Springs has only played 3 full seasons in his 10 year NFL career, he is constantly hurt. Champ who is considered one of the elite CBs in the league didnt miss a game for his first 6 seasons, he missed two last year, but has not missed one this year. We knew this when we got springs, there are players who play and there are players who sit on the sidelines. He is a premier CB when he is on the field, but unfortunatley he is not on the field all the time.

Mauicruzer · 10-03-2006, 01:26 PM

Has Rodgers really stepped it up? Had to listen to the game on the radio until they the last three minutes.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

Are you kidding? Look at the facts Springs has only played 3 full seasons in his 10 year NFL career, he is constantly hurt. Champ who is considered one of the elite CBs in the league didnt miss a game for his first 6 seasons, he missed two last year, but has not missed one this year. We knew this when we got springs, there are players who play and there are players who sit on the sidelines. He is a premier CB when he is on the field, but unfortunatley he is not on the field all the time.

That is becuase he never had the surgery to fix it. He kept tring to let it heal and then play again. He finally had the surgery. Once he is healthy thigns should stay that way for him.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mauicruzer

Has Rodgers really stepped it up? Had to listen to the game on the radio until they the last three minutes.

I don't think so. He made a few good tackles, but got beat a lot.

tjmorgan · 10-03-2006, 02:08 PM

No doubt we need help in the secondary. Rogers has to step up his play, and we have to keep getting a better pass rush on. If Carter and Co. can put some pressure on the QB, that will certainly help our secondary until Springs is back.

RedskinRat · 10-03-2006, 03:28 PM

Rogers improves every game but gave his man too deep a cushion in the Jags game. He's fast but not THAT fast.

Meast · 10-03-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Cut Springs? You're nuts. The surgery was supposed to be a FIX, not a bandaid. That's why they did it. With time he'll get fully healthy again. Once he's good to go he's the best corner in the league. We would be fools to trade him.

Don't be a Homer, Hess It's Deangelo. Springs is not a superhuman but he is better than the alternative. Although Wright and Rumph look better, I don't know which I'd choose, they've both made decent plays, but probably the guy from the U.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Meast

Don't be a Homer, Hess It's Deangelo. Springs is not a superhuman but he is better than the alternative. Although Wright and Rumph look better, I don't know which I'd choose, they've both made decent plays, but probably the guy from the U.

I can be a HOMER all I want! I'm a REDSKIN FAN!!!!

That Guy · 10-03-2006, 08:00 PM

hall's overrated. he just talks a lot o he gets more hype. I'm not saying he's bad, just over rated.

MightyJoeGibbs · 10-03-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Rogers improves every game but gave his man too deep a cushion in the Jags game. He's fast but not THAT fast.

Does anyone remember hearing that Rogers was the only player since Deion in the combine to put up change of direction times in the way he did??????

I dont see that all, not even close.
Deion was the master at side to side and stretch it out. Deion would never charge the line of scrimmage like Rogers b/c that would have to make him touch or tackle somebody and that could get his uniform dirty.

10-03-2006, 12:25 PM	#31
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 835	Re: Shawn Springs I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1. __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

10-03-2006, 12:39 PM	#32
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Shawn Springs Stack, you can't be serious. Springs is absolutely a team player. Heart? He re-injured the dang thing trying to come back early. So no, I wouldn't question his heart. In fact, I think Springs is one of the cornerstones (no pun intended) of the team. This is an injury if you're not 100%, no questions asked, you'll be back on IR quick. Ask Donovan McNabb.

10-03-2006, 01:02 PM	#35
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Shawn Springs we deffo need springs back. however, rogers has really stepped it up as of late and kenny wright is doing ok...that being said springs is still our best cb __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

10-03-2006, 01:24 PM	#36
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 835	Re: Shawn Springs Are you kidding? Look at the facts Springs has only played 3 full seasons in his 10 year NFL career, he is constantly hurt. Champ who is considered one of the elite CBs in the league didnt miss a game for his first 6 seasons, he missed two last year, but has not missed one this year. We knew this when we got springs, there are players who play and there are players who sit on the sidelines. He is a premier CB when he is on the field, but unfortunatley he is not on the field all the time. __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

10-03-2006, 01:26 PM	#37
Mauicruzer Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: maui Posts: 15	Re: Shawn Springs Has Rodgers really stepped it up? Had to listen to the game on the radio until they the last three minutes.

10-03-2006, 02:08 PM	#40
tjmorgan Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 47	Re: Shawn Springs No doubt we need help in the secondary. Rogers has to step up his play, and we have to keep getting a better pass rush on. If Carter and Co. can put some pressure on the QB, that will certainly help our secondary until Springs is back.

10-03-2006, 03:28 PM	#41
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Shawn Springs Rogers improves every game but gave his man too deep a cushion in the Jags game. He's fast but not THAT fast.

10-03-2006, 08:00 PM	#44
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,574	Re: Shawn Springs hall's overrated. he just talks a lot o he gets more hype. I'm not saying he's bad, just over rated.

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